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  1. Rich R

    Who will occupy the land of Israel in Paradise earth?

    Again, all good stuff, but how does it fit with 1 Corinthians 8:6. All verses must agree or we have nothing and might as well eat, drink, and be merry. I'm glad you quoted verse 5. Usually that verse is left out of the context of verse 6. Verse 5 says that whatever Jesus thought, we also ought...
  2. Rich R

    Who will occupy the land of Israel in Paradise earth?

    I love those verses! We sure have a great God, don't we? As far as the secret goes, there are actually a few secrets God mentions in the Bible, the one you mentioned being one of them. But I think the secret relevant to our discussion (the one I'm thinking of anyway), is the one that God kept...
  3. Rich R

    Who will occupy the land of Israel in Paradise earth?

    All good stuff, but any comment on 1 Cor 8:6 which clearly says only the Father is God? Have you seen anything anywhere, inside of or outside of the scriptures, that calls Jesus the Father? I think that verse lays out pretty definitively as to who the one God is. I know there are some verses...
  4. Rich R

    Who will occupy the land of Israel in Paradise earth?

    I wasn't aware that most Christians compare Acts with Zechariah. I'm not one of them though. I don't think Zechariah will be fulfilled until Jesus' second advent. I think the scriptures are clear that the secret was not revealed until it was revealed to Paul, not at Jesus' first appearance...
  5. Rich R

    Who will occupy the land of Israel in Paradise earth?

    I guess we agree on the big parts. I still don't see how Moses can be a Christian, given that Jesus had not yet risen from the dead (Rom 10:9). If Moses was a Christian, why did Jesus bother with the crucifixion? He could have saved himself a lot of trouble. So, what do you think it it takes to...
  6. Rich R

    Who will occupy the land of Israel in Paradise earth?

    I believe 1 Corinthians 8:6: But to us [there is but] one God, the Father, of whom [are] all things, and we in him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom [are] all things, and we by him. It clearly says only the Father is God. I don't recall reading or hearing anywhere that Jesus is the Father...
  7. Rich R

    Who will occupy the land of Israel in Paradise earth?

    I guess I did misunderstand Scott. What you say, and I guess Scott also, is quite different than what Wiki said, i.e. "Christian Church has succeeded ancient Israel as God's true Israel and that Christians have succeeded the ancient Israelites as the people of God." Wiki's version sounds a lot...
  8. Rich R

    Who will occupy the land of Israel in Paradise earth?

    I'm just learning about replacement theory, so forgive me if I get something wrong here. As I understand, it is alleges that Christians are the true Israel. I say that base upon the following article in Wikipedia. Of course, I understand Wikipedia is not necessarily the final word on the matter...
  9. Rich R

    Who will occupy the land of Israel in Paradise earth?

    In Genesis he is the promised seed of the woman. In Exodus he is the Passover lamb. In Leviticus he is the High Priest. In Numbers he is the star to rise out of Jacob. In Deuteronomy he is the two laws: Love God and love your neighbor. In Joshua he is the captain of the Lord of Hosts. In Judges...
  10. Rich R

    Who will occupy the land of Israel in Paradise earth?

    I understand and I appreciate your honesty. Did you check out that list I gave you about who Jesus is in every book of the Bible? It's not something I made up, but I though it was pretty good. How about you? What do you think about it? Maybe it's something we can both agree on?
  11. Rich R

    Who will occupy the land of Israel in Paradise earth?

    Well, none of that has anything to do with the rule I quoted, irrespective of what you think I believe about Jesus. The rule clearly states nobody can call someone who identifies as Christian a non-Christian. You keep on doing that, indicating your lack of respect for the owners of this forum...
  12. Rich R

    Who will occupy the land of Israel in Paradise earth?

    I was checking the rules to make sure I wasn't running afoul of them. I didn't see anything that would indicate I did, but I did see this: "Do not state or imply that another member or group of members who have identified themselves as Christian are not Christians." I wouldn't think of...
  13. Rich R

    Who will occupy the land of Israel in Paradise earth?

    Interestingly enough, I think Peter implies all Christians also have a divine nature. Actually he straight out says we do. 2 Pet 1:4, Whereby are given unto us exceeding great and precious promises: that by these ye might be partakers of the divine nature, having escaped the corruption that is...
  14. Rich R

    Who will occupy the land of Israel in Paradise earth?

    Well then, instead of just telling me to Google something, why not point me directly to the source document you are using? It'd save me some time. Thanks in advance. As far as you not thinking I'm a Christian, I'm fine with whatever you think I am, and I forgive you for any slander you may have...
  15. Rich R

    Who will occupy the land of Israel in Paradise earth?

    And which posts would those be? As I said, I have no problems with following the rules, one of which says we can't say Jesus isn't God. So I don't recall saying Jesus was not God. Now if my saying Jesus is the son of God (which the scriptures clearly say, I'm just quoting them) means to you that...
  16. Rich R

    Who will occupy the land of Israel in Paradise earth?

    I'm sorry. I thought you said Jesus was not of this world and that you were referring to John 8:23. I guess I was mistaken though. Maybe I was thinking of something somebody else said. Things can get moving pretty fast around here! :)
  17. Rich R

    Who will occupy the land of Israel in Paradise earth?

    To clear it up, I believe, Jesus was the only begotten son of God. The scriptures say just that some 3 dozen times. To be more precise, I think: In Genesis he is the promised seed of the woman. In Exodus he is the Passover lamb. In Leviticus he is the High Priest. In Numbers he is the star to...
  18. Rich R

    Who will occupy the land of Israel in Paradise earth?

    I checked out the statistics from the Pew Research Center. Although not as bad as you said, it is nonetheless pretty dismal. Overall only about 30% of Jews in Israel go to Synagogue on a regular basis. As might be expected, the younger and well educated have a much worse record than the older...
  19. Rich R

    Who will occupy the land of Israel in Paradise earth?

    Funny you bring that up. The Pharisees accused Jesus of working with a devil. Matt 12:24, But when the Pharisees heard [it], they said, This [fellow] doth not cast out devils, but by Beelzebub the prince of the devils. Perhaps you may want to tone down the rhetoric just a bit? Remember, we...
  20. Rich R

    Who will occupy the land of Israel in Paradise earth?

    I understand the reasoning and like I said, I have no problem with the rules. I'm curious, where did you get the statistic that says 99% of Jews are atheist? I always thought that, though often wrong about God, Israel certainly had a heart for Him. I do believe Jesus will consider their heart...