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    The Rapture is going to take us Home

    There is only one main subject in these verses; it is the Prince, the Messiah, He is the main subject in all three verses. However I understand it's difficult for you to see because you are expecting someone else. In Yeshua, Messiah, Bob
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    The Rapture is going to take us Home

    I am attaching this study on the translation accuracy of Brentons LXX for Daniel 9:25-27 because I feel that it grants understanding to this discussion. In Yeshua Messiah, Bob
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    Who is Israel?

    Yeshua received the Spirit (mind) of God thus He and the Father were one. [size=4][font=verdana]This is profound to our understanding but it will take some study for your mind to comprehend the meaning of the teaching. In Yeshua Messiah, Bob
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    The Rapture is going to take us Home

    JLB it’s been said several times; both Roy and myself have stated emphatically that only the first 3 ½ years has occurred and there is yet the last 3 ½ years of GREAT TRIBULATION remaining at the end of this age. In Yeshua Messiah, Bob
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    The Rapture is going to take us Home

    Thats OK Roy, we can all get a little carried away in the discussions and I understand. Actually I think I have stated my position regarding the desolation and the fact that in my opinion that Yeshua fulfilled the first 3 ½ years of the last week and we have yet 3 ½ years...
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    The Rapture is going to take us Home

    Hi JLB; brother does anything occur outside of the will and authority of YHWH ? Man placed Yeshua on the cross but by whose plan and authority did it occur? Was not it Yeshua whom pronounced desolation on Jerusalem in Mat 23:38? Mat 23:38 See, your house is left to you desolate. In...
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    The Rapture is going to take us Home

    Tell me JLB was it Shalmaneser king of Assyria that invaded Samaria and took the Northern Tribes into captivity or was it actually God? Was it Nebuchadnezzar king of Assyria that besieged and destroyed Jerusalem and the temple and took Judah captivity or was it actually God? In both cases it...
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    The Rapture is going to take us Home

    The point is JLB; we should not be locked into expecting a certain alignment of scripture in all of the prophecies. In Yeshua Messiah, Bob
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    Who is Israel?

    Ezekiel 37 is yet to be fulfilled and it is a Kingdom of God prophecy to be fulfilled in the Millennium. The meaning of the oracle is clear enough. It foretells the eventual reunion of Ephraim and Judah, the Northern Israel and the Southern Israel, Samaria and Jerusalem under one king, thus...
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    The Rapture is going to take us Home

    If everything was in sequence in these prophecies we would be in real trouble when reading Revelation wouldn’t we? :rolleyes: In Yeshua Messiah, Bob
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    Who is Israel?

    Yes I agree in principle with you Veteran but we cannot deny that YHWH did within that group reject some so the line is not without exception. In Yeshua Messiah, Bob
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    Who is Israel?

    OK I'll agree to that :) In Yeshua Messiah, Bob
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    Who is Israel?

    Then the word of YHWH is wrong or maybe you can tell me what the scripture really means :huh: (Gen 21:12 ESV) But God said to Abraham, "Be not displeased because of the boy and because of your slave woman. Whatever Sarah says to you, do as she tells you, for through Isaac shall your offspring...
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    Receiving The Revelation 16:15 Scripture

    Hummmm...is it possible that the real gathering of the church occurs in Rev 14? Rev 14:14-15 ESV Then I looked, and behold, a white cloud, and seated on the cloud one like a son of man, with a golden crown on his head, and a sharp sickle in his hand. (15) And another angel came out of the...
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    The Rapture is going to take us Home

    I see nothing odd about the narrative what so ever; it is just two different aspects to the prophecy but then I’m not a literacy critic either, I can barely operate this keyboard. :rolleyes: Let me ask this question was Yeshua the promise; was not He the covenant of promise guarantee by the...
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    The Rapture is going to take us Home

    What Roy proposes regarding it is Yeshua that confirmed the covenant is not new and many commentators and analysis have proposed the same thought. JFB for example states the following… Daniel 9:27he shall confirm the covenant — Christ. The confirmation of the covenant is assigned to Him also...
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    Who is Israel?

    I think it is important to remember that the term gentile (goy or goyim) (ethnos in Greek) can apply to both non Israelites as well as Israelites; it simply means unbelievers among the nations. The term in the bible becomes confused because in most cases you have two groups; either the Jews...
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    Who is Israel?

    Isn't that a little counter to the word of YHWH; if what you say is totally true then there would not have been a distinction between the seed of Abraham. Simply put some were the seed and some were not :unsure: In Yeshua Messiah, Bob
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    The Rapture is going to take us Home

    Hi JLB; where does the bible state this? Or is it a matter of translation and understanding? In Yeshua Messiah, Bob
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    Who is Israel?

    Hi Angelina; if Jewish ancestry does not qualify one to be an Israelite today YHWH might have a difficult time fulfilling His promise to reassemble and remarry the Lost House of Israel. After 2500 odd years I seriously doubt that there many pure blooded Israelites remaining. Is not Romans...