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nope its something you chose to be offended by, rather than realize that your church makes people who believe in Christ and believe the bible before the Catholic church see it this way. its the enraged that are blind, and your own wrath blinds you. this is an open discussion on the matter if it...

the OP is about the discussion of bread and wine as opposed to Catholicism on the "Eucharist" isn't it? so the term Eucharist has everything to o with Trent and other documents that would show catholic teaching from the biblical communion to "Eucharist species"

in the context you posted, to swear is to promise or undertake something by an oath; to take an oath by way of a solemn promise or undertaking. it has nothing to do with what words some one would use, that you chose to be offended by.

well you're correct about that, guys like this trust the church more than what the Lord says or what scripture says. there's a gap if you will from the (church father's documents) to the Council of Trent in this conversation where the catholic church converted to this presence in the bread and...

not sure what you're trying to say here

it still doesn't mean Jesus Himself is there also, that's what you want it to mean. I reiterate these documents do not in any shape or form supersede what scripture says. also why doesn't it say plainly as do later catholic document that the presence of the Lord is in the bread and wine if...

This is what I said: if your interpretation is so, when He gave the Apostles when He said this, was He present in His flesh or was He present in the bread and wine when He handed it to the Apostles? are you saying He was in both places? it has to be what you are saying you know. Where does it...

though this is not scripture and certainly doesn't supersede scripture it really doesn't say the Presence of the Lord is in the bread and wine or Eucharist if you like. saying Jesus is where His church is doesn't mean He is in the bread and wine. it means He is with His and within His wherever...

you notice just five words extracted from your statement there truth? SOP for these people, it tells you they have no interest in things of the Lord, only in the practice of provocation, miss direction. the subject of the thread is the theology behind the Catholic Eucharist. in the bull...

Exo 20:7 Thou shalt not take the name of the LORD thy God in vain; for the LORD will not hold him guiltless that taketh his name in vain. OED says: Vain Devoid of real value, worth, or significance; idle, unprofitable, useless, worthless; of no effect, force, or power; fruitless, futile...

Exo 20:4 Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth: Exo 20:5 Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God...

to reiterate the "Eucharist spices" according to the catholic church is a "holy sacrifice of the Mass" hence they are saying they are sacrificing Christ again. because nothing is Holy without the Presence of God. but it is the church that claims this, not the bible. if the Lord or the Apostles...

that's true. Paul speaks with authority of an Apostle but no Apostle supersedes the Word of the Lord, what Jesus says. therefore one should consider that someone like Paul or Peter or John wrote in the context of what The Lord says, not usurping and or superseding what the Lord says. town...

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really where's that here's the statement to take part in the communion is to partake of the Life and Body of Christ as a recipient there of. to do this, as Paul says "unworthy" (note here when in quotes it means quoting Paul that was a typo) (note the following is not in quotes and includes...

trust in what you say it means or the catholic church for that matter has nothing to do with faith in the Lord Jesus. Just because by Him where all things made, doesn't mean He expected use to understand that His Presence was in the bread and wine because that's what you believe. nope there's...

if your interpretation is so, when He gave the Apostles when He said this, was He present in His flesh or was He present in the bread and wine when He handed it to the Apostles? are you saying He was in both places? it has to be what you are saying you know. ok now, is it a representation as...

thank ya, thank ya very much.

Well here was your typo: Ok. You misspelled unworthily. But there is this: The same typo twice! Ok. Sure, it could happen. But I don't think so. You said "unworthy status". That's wrong but it makes sense as a phrase. "Unworthily starus" doesn't make much sense. "Unworthily" is an...