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That's kinda a loaded question depending on how deep you get in the subject. I believe Revelation to be written cryptically deliberately by John to hide its true meaning from the Roman contemporaries of the day and acknowledge the possibility that the Holy Spirit has even "sealed" ( hidden...

So, is this meaning a "true believer" cannot hold any 'sinful belief" and be mentally perfect? Unless thats true and the requirement of a "true believer" then a "true believer' can still be on the lifelong trail of submitting "sin" to Christ in the flesh. If thats the case then they could hold...

look forward to reading it Let me know when you secure the reading material

Actually, its the SMOKE and the act of ascending thats forever. The thing is Revelation specifically is written in poetic prose and metaphorically so a literal translation is ill advised. It must be taken in conjunction with the theme of all related scripture in context and application.

Personally, I read yours which is why I was led to initiate a conversation with you. For me, the purpose of this thread and your initial answers to my questions, the "debate" is complete and this is the logical next step of introducing you to Jesus and Salvation.

I consider what it says and nothing more. No "title" or accolade of man impresses God. ( as if an "emperor" had some special favor a peasant didn't). Nowhere does that mean God doesn't have preferences, recognizes merit ( or bad conduct) or has special interests.

Actually that's incorrect, there are many people God singled out for his own purpose in preference and others he hated. What about the races he commanded Israel to destroy in the OT and those who will be destroyed in the lake of fire? How far did that care go other than just a general concern?

Well That's probably one of the worst examples of being a Christian that could have been chosen.

That's improper context and you know that.

That's an oxymoron because a "Christian" HAS repented and been sealed.

You don't seem to "see" much of anything and I believe that's a deliberate act because it conflicts with your world view. But its possible for me to be wrong on that.

All true but the original question was: Can a Christian have a pro choice view. ( doesn't imply actually committing the act) The answer is yes they can. It is wrong. It is against scripture. Arguably the belief would be a sin as well. That said, the "sin" of a pro abortion belief ( in God's...

They are OUTSIDE and their end is near

That's what death is in case nobody ever explained it to you. That's the new state after all is done for those who have eternal life

Yes No, they don't burn forever

I cant imagine God doing something He didn't want to. How does that relate to anything on this thread?

Both, everything you have posted that I have read is fundamentally and fatally defective in every way and you talk in circles without ever validating a single point by scripture. You just say you "believe".

That's universalism basically What other "sense" is there and where else do they "directly go"?

Cant dispute that. Carry On

I don't disagree with anything quoted here but none of it is relevant to any point raised in this thread.