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    The 144,000 before God at the end.

    Yeah. Later happen when the seals are opened. WHEN THE SEALS OPEN THE EVENTS WILL HAPPEN. How can you possibly be confused. It's the same as the trumpets. After the 7th seal is opened the trumpets will sound. At the sounding of each trumpet, the event will happen. So simple and yet you deny the...
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    The 144,000 before God at the end.

    When the seals are opened the events happen. It's simple. What's the confusion? What are you talking about.......ignoring the facts. I am following the facts. Here is Jesus in the clouds for the harvest at the 6th seal. Revelation 14 14 And I looked, and behold a white cloud, and upon the...
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    The 144,000 before God at the end.

    It is to the clouds. And then of course we can see them in heaven for the marriage supper.
  4. The Light

    The 144,000 before God at the end.

    Only problem is Jesus said we can escape the false Christs, beast of the earth and beast of the sea, we can escape, the wars, famines and pestilence which are the beginning of sorrows. We can also escape the great tribulation and stand before the Son of Man. You attempting to compare that to...
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    The 144,000 before God at the end.

    Luke 21 36 Watch ye therefore, and pray always, that ye may be accounted worthy to escape all these things that shall come to pass, and to stand before the Son of man.
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    The 144,000 before God at the end.

    The 7th trumpet is the finish. That's it. Rev 10 7 But in the days of the voice of the seventh angel, when he shall begin to sound, the mystery of God should be finished, as he hath declared to his servants the prophets. You are really confused. The 144,000 are the first fruits of the harvest...
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    The 144,000 before God at the end.

    The danger of Pretrib is not knowing there is one.
  8. The Light

    The 144,000 before God at the end.

    He skips half of Revelation and pretends it doesn't happen. Why, I don't know.
  9. The Light

    The 144,000 before God at the end.

    I am already educated on the 6th seal. It is the coming of Jesus immediately after the tribulation when He sends His angels to gather the elect from heaven and earth. You said the 6th seal and the 7th trumpet are the same and THEY ARE NOT. The 6th seal is the coming of Jesus before wrath and...
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    The 144,000 before God at the end.

    Where do you get this stuff? The trumpets cannot happen UNTIL the 7th seal is opened. After the 7th seal is opened, the trumpets can happen, and not before. When seals are opened, the event will happen. When the 6th seal is opened, Jesus will return for the second coming harvest before the...
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    Will Trump seek asylum in Israel and Build the 3rd Temple?

    It's very, very likely that the Church will be raptured before the election in 2024, so I don't suspect I will be voting for any of them either.
  12. The Light

    The 144,000 before God at the end.

    Jesus is talking about the disciples. They have to remain to spread the Word of God. We are at the end of the age. We do not have to remain. One will be taken and one left. We are taken to heaven for the marriage supper.
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    The 144,000 before God at the end.

    I agree 100%. Post trib is pre-wrath. Agree 100% Here is David in NJ's comment. "Revelation repeats the Second Coming in the 6th Seal and in the 7th Trumpet and in chapter 19." David is saying that the 6th seal is the second coming........which is correct. Then he says that we see the second...
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    The 144,000 before God at the end.

    The 6th seal is certainly the second coming. However, the 7th trumpet and Chapter 19 are the second advent when Jesus returns to earth. I'm not sure why you are not getting this. It's simple. The signs of the sun, moon and stars MARK the coming of Jesus at the 6th seal. It is immediately after...
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    The 144,000 before God at the end.

    STAY THIRSTY MY FRIEND. AND HUNGRY FOR THE WORD.
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    The 144,000 before God at the end.

    This is correct. The 6th seal shows the second coming when all eyes will see the coming of the Lord. This is a harvest when Jesus remains in the clouds and sends His angels to gather the elect from heaven and earth. The gathering happens immediately after the tribulation and before the day of...
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    The 144,000 before God at the end.

    You are post wrath according to the Word. The TRIBULATION IS OVER AT THE 6TH SEAL.
  18. The Light

    The 144,000 before God at the end.

    Why? Because you don't understand that the verses provided are COMPLETLY OUT OF CONTEXT? Our Lord says different. Luke 21 36 Watch ye therefore, and pray always, that ye may be accounted worthy to escape all these things that shall come to pass, and to stand before the Son of man. Are you...
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    The 144,000 before God at the end.

    Pffffffffff. The usual out of context nonsense. Read the next verse. 1 Corinthians 10 14 Wherefore, my dearly beloved, flee from idolatry. However, some will be kept from the hour of temptation that will come upon the whole world. Revelation 3 8 I know thy works: behold, I have set before...
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    The 144,000 before God at the end.

    Exactly. We are told to watch so we will know when He is coming. They are watching of the Antichrist.