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    Timing of Eze 37 and 38 pre Trib?

    If the vials are in the Tribulation then the wrath is found there. Knowing that God sends angels to pour out heavy judgments in the end also tells us that we are not appointed to wrath. What is stated as I posted was that the vials were the completion of the wrath. Not the only wrath. Rev 14:8...
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    Timing of Eze 37 and 38 pre Trib?

    The main thing is that it is the wrath of God in the tribulation. God allowing Satan to do his thing is part of that.
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    Timing of Eze 37 and 38 pre Trib?

    True, Satan is angry in that time. The vials are in that time also, and are the wrath of God. Rev 14:8 I saw in heaven another great and marvelous sign: seven angels with the seven last plagues—last, because with them God's wrath is completed Yes it is over by the time the 1000 years start.
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    Timing of Eze 37 and 38 pre Trib?

    The wrath is not done over tea. It goes on awhile, and the most sever part is at the end. The tribulation is wrath, the vials are the culmination of that wrath poured out, and when Jesus returns, He has vengeance. There is no need to try and limit all wrath to after the seventh trumpet. There is...
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    Timing of Eze 37 and 38 pre Trib?

    So the seals are opened, and that covers all the seven years. It tells us in capsule form what happens right on up till Jesus returns. If this is the case, then the vials and trumpets that are in later chapters are not to be looked at as if they follow the seals chronologically. Instead, they...
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    Timing of Eze 37 and 38 pre Trib?

    Not in any way is that remotely close to being true. One does not 'shuffle' Gen 1 to know that Gen 2 is a recap of what was already done. There is no way Jesus could have returned before the trumpets start! There is no way the various trumpets get blown after Jesus returns! Name any reason why...
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    Timing of Eze 37 and 38 pre Trib?

    If you mean today, then yes, it is just some. If you mean after the wonderful judgments of God that bring Israel to finally repent (the remnant left alive at the time) then absolutely! ALL Israel shall be saved!
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    Timing of Eze 37 and 38 pre Trib?

    The Jews in Israel who all get saved are at the end of the tribulation. The remnant. Not every Jew who ever lived! Didn't I already make that clear? What is your problem?
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    Timing of Eze 37 and 38 pre Trib?

    The seals seem to cover the whole span from beginning to end of the events of that time. Then, as the bible often tends to do, it goes back and covers things in more detail. If that is the case, then yes, the sixth seal would be after the Tribulation. Simple. They came OUT of great...
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    Timing of Eze 37 and 38 pre Trib?

    Did I say those people would be living at the end of the tribulation? Try to be honest.
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    Timing of Eze 37 and 38 pre Trib?

    Except all Israel will be saved, says God Almighty. Your opinion is overruled.
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    Timing of Eze 37 and 38 pre Trib?

    It simply includes the folks in Israel left alive after most are killed in that time of trouble coming. Finally, after severe judgments, they will be saved. Not sure why you dredged up some vile person from thousands of years ago. Right, they do turn in the end. Not now. What are you missing...
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    Timing of Eze 37 and 38 pre Trib?

    You thought God was bringing gog to attack saved people? When all the remaining (remnant) people in a nation get saved it is no longer some little personal thing.
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    Timing of Eze 37 and 38 pre Trib?

    He never placed God restoring Jews to the land at all actually. Try to focus, and be honest. Except it is actually. Romans 11:26 And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob: That does not happen...
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    Timing of Eze 37 and 38 pre Trib?

    All removing is in the time of Jacob's trouble (tribulation). In the end all the remaining people of Israel get saved. Then He brings the Jewish (now believers) back to that land as promised. You are in no position to cast judgment. We do know all Israel gets saved in the end. So? What is your...
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    Timing of Eze 37 and 38 pre Trib?

    Now they are known as the tribulation saints. When the time is here they will be the only saints around. All Israel shall be saved. They will look on Him whom they pierced and believe in the end, and weep as for an only son. Says...who? You made that up. So who are those men? They are the...
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    Timing of Eze 37 and 38 pre Trib?

    That is incorrect. Jeremiah 10:10 But the Lord is the true God, he is the living God, and an everlasting king: at his wrath the earth shall tremble, and the nations shall not be able to abide his indignation. Zep 14 The great day of the Lord is near, it is near, and hasteth greatly, even the...
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    Timing of Eze 37 and 38 pre Trib?

    None of these verses say any such thing. Example, 1 Peter 2:9 But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light; 1 Peter 2:10 Which in time past were...
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    Timing of Eze 37 and 38 pre Trib?

    No more than thinking that the land of Israel will be invaded in the end. Did you think they were going to attack only some lost tribe? There are clear promises for Israel, the children of Abraham, and there are clear promises for Christians. You conflate them. If they were not His people why...
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    Timing of Eze 37 and 38 pre Trib?

    First, yes. He died for all the world, and even when here to start with Israel He reached out somewhat, such as the woman at the well. Jesus did not die for Israel only! I see. So by pretending He died only for Israel, you think we can include ourselves in Israel! That is building error on...