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Fascinating St. SteVen, though we are not the first to approach this challenge, nor the last. I both despise the idea that what you said is true, and in a quick search within myself I find the reality that yes, at times I have been that man. For me, it comes down to obedience the the Holy...

Thank you St. SteVen Interesting observation, let me see. I believe that what I am trying to express here is, I understand unity of faith as a "spiritual unity," which has it's basis in the Holy Spirit, the mind of God, eternity, not the minds of men. The issue of "doctrine" normally becomes...

Was a Jew as the son of Mary, the son of man. We may need to remember that the genealogy of Christ Yahshua is traced via fathers and sons. A son inherits the genealogy of his father as seen in the gospels of Matthew and Luke. So ask yourselves this, was God the Father of the Lord Yahshua Christ...

"Is not" He most certainly was in His flesh, in His humanity during His time on the earth. Think "The first man is from the earth, earthy; the second man is from heaven." (1Co 15:47 NASB) The natural and then the spiritual...the Lord Yahshua Christ is no longer in the "natural" He is Spiritual...

I merely quoted the Lord Yahshua Himself, those are His words. He "is" not a Jew, so how's your logic going to work here "GISMYS_7?" God manifest in the flesh cursed Israel, what are you thinking here anyway?

And it was the cause of much destruction; it never works because that was never the “call” of the Lord Yahshua. His will is for His people to grow into a “spiritual unity” which actually does and is happening…most forget that He has been on the throne of God since His resurrection and ascension...

Is that what the Lord had in mind St. SteVen? Paul said this, "And He gave some as apostles, and some as prophets, and some as evangelists, and some as pastors and teachers, for the equipping of the saints for the work of service, to the building up of the body of Christ; until we all attain...

Seriously Patrick, He did say to them, Israel "Behold, your house is being left to you desolate!" He laid them to waste...put them in the "wilderness" again.

The woman in Revelation 12 who went into the wilderness is next seen in the same wilderness in Revelation 17 as John reports and she is "sitting on a scarlet beast, full of blasphemous names, having seven heads and ten horns."

Just a question friend, did this happen as you stated it? Sure I could have read the whole forum, nah. Just curious as to how this played out and what's going on with these two witnesses? Reddsta