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    The Truth, The Whole Truth about Creation

    Just as I thought. You don't have an answer. I should go back to ridiculing your position as it so justly deserves. If you can come up with even one, and I really only want one, thing you think is a billion or even a million years old, write back. Otherwise, take your horn and blow it somewhere...
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    The Truth, The Whole Truth about Creation

    I don't see anything that looks billions of years old. Please, point out one thing that you think is representative of your perspective. I'm being serious this time. Zeke25
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    The Truth, The Whole Truth about Creation

    You said you would be adding more to this. I think I found your text. Humans originally existed as members of small bands of nomadic hunter/gatherers. They lived on deer in the mountains during the summer and would go to the coast and live on fish and lobster in the winter...
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    Sabbath-Keeping

    HTE, When God, in Ex. 20, said to remember the sabbath, He was referring back to Ex. 16:23, which was the first time the sabbath was mentioned in Scripture - 2 ½ thousands years after Creation Week. For a more complete understanding of this issue, please refer to post #81 in this thread, Part...
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    Mass Is Not the Topic in John 6th Chapter

    Communion 1. As a Christian have you wondered what the Lord's supper, called communion, is all about? 1 Corinthians 11:23-26 KJV, "23 For I have received of the Lord that which also I delivered unto you, that the Lord [Yahoshua] the same night in which he was betrayed took bread: 24 And when...
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    Mass Is Not the Topic in John 6th Chapter

    Put the subject in chronological order. Communion was taught at the Last Supper, not anywhere else prior to that. John 6 occurred before the Last Supper. Therefore, John 6 was not teaching communion in any manner, shape, or form. Anyone in the early church, and up to the present, that tried to...
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    Sabbath-Keeping

    HereToEternity, The sabbath was only given to the Hebrews, and to no one else. That began in Exodus 16:23, then was formalized in Exodus 20. There was no sabbath ever, prior to Exodus 16. Then when Yahoshua said, "It is finished", so was the sabbath. It was never again used as a teaching tool...
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    Sabbath-Keeping

    JIF, I noticed that you made no comment regarding my statement: Do you know the Biblical definition of "evening"? When that was changed, the times were changed. The biblical definition of "evening" may have been changed as recently as the 15th century. This is a changing of the times that has...
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    Sabbath-Keeping

    Romans 3:19 Now we know that what things soever the law saith, it saith to them who are under the law: that every mouth may be stopped, and all the world may become guilty before God. 20 Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his sight: for by the law is the...
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    Sabbath-Keeping

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    Sabbath-Keeping

    Hi Born-Again, Personally, in the beginning I do not think that the days of the week were named. Possibly, they were referred to as day 1, day 2, etc. However, I do not believe that either. I think that the days of the month were numbered: Days 2-8 were the 1st week, days 9-15 2nd week, days...
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    Sabbath-Keeping

    Upp, Well said. Heretoeternity, You are promoting heretical Hebrew Roots doctrine with your division of the Torah. Which particular group or branch of this movement do you belong to? Zeke25
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    Sabbath-Keeping

    There are not several other possibilities. There is one possibility, and it is not so confusing as Satan would like to have it. The seventh day of the week is the Sabbath of the Lord - plain and simple. A child can understand that. Yet people will declare that Sabbath keepers are all wrong in...
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    Sabbath-Keeping

    Hi Upp, Thanks for sharing those Scriptures. I agree of course. Z Hi heretoeternity, Not sure what your point is. I have no problem with God sanctifying a day. He could have been sanctifying the 7th "Day" when we enter into His spiritual rest. And by "Day" it doesn't have to be a single 24...
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    Sabbath-Keeping

    Exodus 20:11 For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the LORD blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it. The Lord God both blessed the seventh day (what other day of the week did He specifically bless? None.)...
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    Sabbath-Keeping

    God did not make the sabbath day holy at creation. There was no sabbath at that time, but there was the 7th day of creation week. Where do you find the word sabbath in the book of Genesis at all? If it is there, I need to know. Thanks, Zeke25
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    Sabbath-Keeping

    Thank you, I keep it in check from here on out.
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    Sabbath-Keeping

    I appreciate the heads up. I didn't check ahead of time to see what my limit was. Sorry about that. And I agree, most do not want to read a complete analysis of the subject. But for those who want to know the who truth about this doctrine, they will not find a more thorough apologetic anywhere...
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    Sabbath-Keeping

    Raeneska (Post #82), I'm not sure who you are responding to in your post, because you did not quote anyone or address your post to anyone. But, it does immediately follow that which I posted. However, your subject matter doesn't appear to be addressed to me, because you start off with talking...
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    Sabbath-Keeping

    Sabbath Keeping Part I - Why It Was Established 1. Deuteronomy 5:13-15 KJV, "13 Six days thou shalt labour, and do all thy work: 14 But the seventh day is the sabbath of [Yahowah] thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, nor thy manservant, nor thy...