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    Archaeological proof of Christ's AD 70 bodily return

    Anybody with a moderate interest in doing language research into these things has the tools readily available to do so online. I am certainly not at the professorial doctorate level that my brother is, but that level isn't really necessary to form some really basic conclusions regarding the...
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    Archaeological proof of Christ's AD 70 bodily return

    First of all, to be a bit more exact, it wasn't scorpions - it was those creatures termed "locusts" who had tails like scorpions who were not allowed to hurt the 144,000 First-fruits with God's seal in their foreheads. And yes, it was during the years of the "Great Tribulation" for those in...
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    Archaeological proof of Christ's AD 70 bodily return

    Not quite the right quote. Christ said in Luke 21:16-18 that even though the disciples would be persecuted and put to death, "But there shall not an hair of your heads perish". The fate destined for the bodies of the righteous dead is that their mortal remains will be bodily resurrected and...
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    Archaeological proof of Christ's AD 70 bodily return

    It is not "conjecture" to say that the Jewish leadership was out to get Lazarus, as well as Christ. John 12:10-11 tells us this. It is not "conjecture" to say that Lazarus was referred to as "He whom thou lovest" in John 11:3. It was well known that Jesus loved Martha, and her sister Mary...
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    Archaeological proof of Christ's AD 70 bodily return

    Yes, they do. Practically every book except maybe a couple in the NT has something to say about Christ's first-century return. The predictions are there, and are even more obvious when one refers to the original language. I'm not arguing that Christ is not the First-fruits. He was. But it...
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    When Christ returns, we shall all be changed, including heaven and earth, actually all things are changed out for something better.

    The souls of the wicked dead are raised to stand before God in the judgment - but not their physical bodies. Isaiah 26:14 tells us this about the bodies of the wicked dead. "They are dead, they shall NOT LIVE; they are deceased, they shall NOT RISE: therefore hast thou visited and destroyed...
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    Archaeological proof of Christ's AD 70 bodily return

    You did not live back then to be an eye-witness either way. We are to rely on the Scriptures, which tell us repeatedly about the first-century return of Christ. Even today, the atheist derides Christians by mocking us for all of the Scripture promises that Christ would bodily return in that...
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    Archaeological proof of Christ's AD 70 bodily return

    Again, you are inserting an artificial limitation of "and ONLY HE" on this verse that isn't there. Jesus is called "the First-fruits" of those who had fallen asleep because He participated in that first bodily resurrection event that day which ALSO included the many Matthew 27:52-53 saints...
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    When Christ returns, we shall all be changed, including heaven and earth, actually all things are changed out for something better.

    The souls of the "unjust" wicked dead (but not their mortal remains in the grave) rise to be judged in the "resurrection to destruction". That is what the word "damnation" means. Psalms 1:5 tells me that "the wicked shall not stand in the judgment". Their dead bodies are left to...
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    Archaeological proof of Christ's AD 70 bodily return

    Christ is a single individual. The term "First-fruits" in this text refers to a group that is "harvested" by being resurrected at the same time. Did you ever see a harvest consisting of only a single stalk of grain? That makes no sense. "First-fruits" is a PLURAL word. Paul was perfectly...
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    When Christ returns, we shall all be changed, including heaven and earth, actually all things are changed out for something better.

    Christ said the fate of the wicked was to "perish", unlike the believers who "shall NOT perish", either body or soul. The mortal remains of the wicked dead never leave the dust of the grave, contrary to the children of God who DO bodily rise in a changed form made immortal and incorruptible...
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    When Christ returns, we shall all be changed, including heaven and earth, actually all things are changed out for something better.

    All those Jewish tribe members of "those who pierced Him" who were still alive to see Christ's bodily return to the Mount of Olives in AD 70 mourned and gnashed their teeth on that occasion. That is because they saw all the prophets and the righteous and the fathers entering the kingdom of God...
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    Archaeological proof of Christ's AD 70 bodily return

    Absolutely true. But the word "First-fruits" is NOT indicative of a single stalk of grain being harvested. It is a group harvested on the same day. Christ was one of these "First-fruits", but there were also 144,000 other Jewish "First-fruits" raised that same day. The 144,000 "First-fruits"...
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    When Christ returns, we shall all be changed, including heaven and earth, actually all things are changed out for something better.

    I have already said I agree that this "END" in 1 Cor. 15:24 is in our future at the culmination point of fallen mankind's history. But this "END" is THIRD on the list of THREE consecutive resurrection events which Paul lists, one after another, in 1 Cor. 15:22-24. The "rule and authority and...
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    When Christ returns, we shall all be changed, including heaven and earth, actually all things are changed out for something better.

    Yep, I agree. All the dead were to be included in this resurrection and judgment in "the hour is coming" that Christ spoke about. But Paul told Felix that this particular judgment and resurrection of both just and unjust was "about to be" in his own time frame (as he was speaking in Acs 24:15...
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    When Christ returns, we shall all be changed, including heaven and earth, actually all things are changed out for something better.

    Yes, I agree that 1 Cor. 15:23 shows two resurrections. But the next verse 24 shows us the third. "THEN the end..." etc. This does not tell you that at that same time of the second resurrection, the end would come. IF that were Paul's intent, he would have chosen the Greek word "tote"...
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    Archaeological proof of Christ's AD 70 bodily return

    I prefer the Interlinear myself. This verse reads as follows: "...whether [he] first through resurrection of [dead] light is about to announce to the people and to the nations." The word "first" modifies the verb phrase "is about to announce". It does not say Christ was the first to rise from...
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    Archaeological proof of Christ's AD 70 bodily return

    1 Cor. 15:22 does NOT say that Christ was the first to be resurrected. It calls Him "Christ the FIRST-fruits". This is NOT a unique title. There were also 144,000 who were likewise called "FIRST-fruits" in Revelation 14. In other words, there were also 144,000 who were bodily-resurrected...
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    Archaeological proof of Christ's AD 70 bodily return

    Give me the verse that says ONLY the twelve were with Christ at the Last Supper. This is an artificial limitation that you are putting on the text that isn't found in Scripture at all. I have given several Scripture evidences above that John the son of Zebedee could not possibly have been the...
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    Archaeological proof of Christ's AD 70 bodily return

    There absolutely was a bodily resurrection of the dead in AD 70. Daniel gave us the exact day in which it would happen in Daniel 12:11-13. I believe Daniel, Christ, and all the other NT writers concerning this.