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    The only way Amil can remotely be Biblical is if NOSAS isn't Biblical.

    "You are both fighting truth and twisting truth." - WPM I may be wrong SI, but I don't think WPM was referring to the two of you, but rather saying that David is fighting against truth and twisting the truth. IOW without understanding because he fights against truth and twists the truth also.
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    The only way Amil can remotely be Biblical is if NOSAS isn't Biblical.

    It depends on who you think "them" refers to? Do you believe Gentiles of faith are grafted into natural branches of Israel that were broken off through "unbelief"? Or are Gentiles of faith grafted into natural branches of Israel that were of the election of grace and eternally saved? Romans...
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    The only way Amil can remotely be Biblical is if NOSAS isn't Biblical.

    How is that not true if one believes the biblical doctrine of eternal security (OSAS)? All/whosoever having part in the first resurrection has overcome the second death (OSAS). And not one of them after having part in the first resurrection is not already eternally secure (OSAS) in the...
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    Are the trumpets and vials running in parallel like some insist?

    David, when we take a picture of our children, we typically do so as they grow and change into what sometimes appears to be a totally different person. The picture of a newborn babe looks quite different than they do at 5 years of age. We take pictures from differing angles, or perspectives...
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    Some key points pertaining to the parable per Luke 19:11-27.

    David, 1. What was the occasion that caused the devil's great wrath? 2. Isn't his great wrath because he could not devour the Christ-child as soon as He was born? 3. Wasn't attempting to devour Christ at birth the reason behind the war in heaven between Michael and his angels and the...
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    Some key points pertaining to the parable per Luke 19:11-27.

    Be careful thinking you will get true biblical understanding from those with a bias to prove! Here are a few verses that seem to be saying the mystery that had not been known in ages past, that has now been made known through Christ is that the Kingdom of God will be complete when every...
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    Some key points pertaining to the parable per Luke 19:11-27.

    If the Kingdom of God is on this earth when God sends down fire from heaven to utterly burn up everything on the earth with every living inhabitant, how could that which is physical be exempt from the fiery wrath of God? That's not how eternal/everlasting/forever is defined. Where in Scripture...
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    There are 2 tribulation periods, the “first” is to the Jews

    When do you believe the 70th week of years begins?
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    There are 2 tribulation periods, the “first” is to the Jews

    The 70th week of years cannot be divided from the 490 weeks of years when Messiah the Prince would come to fulfill the six things spoken in vs. 24. If we separate the one final seven years week from the 490 weeks of years, the things Messiah the Prince came to accomplish would be 483 weeks of...
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    Some key points pertaining to the parable per Luke 19:11-27.

    Yes, God does use man to accomplish His will! Even the Son of God became a man to accomplish all the Father ordained He would from before the foundation of the world. Which is why it is written, "the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world."
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    Some key points pertaining to the parable per Luke 19:11-27.

    It's useless to argue against one's opinions. Since you've not offered a single verse to support your opinions, I'll no further engage in this debate with you.
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    Some key points pertaining to the parable per Luke 19:11-27.

    I agree, His spiritual Kingdom will come down out of heaven! It just won't' be to this earth for one thousand years. For this earth shall be utterly consumed by the fire of God's wrath. The spiritual Kingdom of God that shall come down from heaven will come to the earth made new again through...
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    Some key points pertaining to the parable per Luke 19:11-27.

    Luke 17:21 (KJV) Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you. John 3:3 (KJV) Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see [know] the kingdom of God. John 3:5 (KJV) Jesus...
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    Some key points pertaining to the parable per Luke 19:11-27.

    Do you believe in the Kingdom of God that Christ says, "But if I with the finger of God cast out devils, no doubt the kingdom of God is come upon you."? I assume you would say that you do believe in the Kingdom of God that Christ says has come when He cast out evil spirits that possessed some...
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    Some key points pertaining to the parable per Luke 19:11-27.

    Do you know the difference between that which is forever and that which can only be temporary?
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    It is time to give Pretrib a decent burial

    Christ returns to the earth made new again because He departed from the earth as it exists today. All things that are written to be fulfilled when the last/seventh trumpet sounds shall be complete when Christ returns the Second time.
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    There are 2 tribulation periods, the “first” is to the Jews

    You're right there is no gap between the 69th and 70th week like JLB seems to think. But there is an overlapping of the 69th and 70th weeks.
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    It is time to give Pretrib a decent burial

    Why would we who are post trib Amil believe our everlasting home is heaven? We are caught up to meet the Lord in the after great tribulation, and before the wrath of God falls down from heaven in ALL-CONSUMING fire. Then we who caught up to meet the Lord in the air and not in heaven, shall...
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    There are 2 tribulation periods, the “first” is to the Jews

    That's too bad, because the extensive research he's done, and is proven through the Bible is second to none as he takes us through a kind of grid of sevens found throughout the Word of God. While I appreciate the in-depth work, he's put into showing us what can only be described as a clock that...
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    There are 2 tribulation periods, the “first” is to the Jews

    You wouldn't think so if you read the book by Christian Gedge "The Atonement Clock." Covanantee was kind enough to provide us a link if you're interested. Bro, I'm looking at Chris's online Scholar's Edition of his epic The Atonement Clock. Is there any of that explanation in there?