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You’re welcome to your belief but I don’t agree.

Show me in the Bible where getting killed prevents you from going to the same heaven that all of us go to. No the alter’s not in heaven. The alter was the cross where the true lambs blood was shed. Under the alter is literally what was under the cross, the “heart of the earth” where the OT...

The two witnesses are still a mystery to me but I agree this could be correct but it’s not enough to draw a definitive conclusion. Yes I’m interested, thanks! I can’t say I disagree but If John the Baptist is one witness who’s dead body lay in the street then who would the other witness be...

That’s not what the Bible says. In fact the rider of the white horse that goes forth conquering and to conquer is Jesus Christ and so are the other three horse riders.

I never thought of that but that is highly likely the OT saints asking Jesus how long. I think the fellow servants to be killed would likely be people like John the Baptist.

I agree. The alter was the cross and the souls under the alter were the OT saints in Abraham’s bosom.

You’re saying the fifth seal is future. We’ll, everyone who has died or will die after the resurrection of Jesus goes directly to heaven and so shall they ever be with the Lord. Agree? If you agree then why are these souls still under the alter when everyone else who dies goes straight to...

It’s called the totalitarian tip toe. They’re tip toeing the people into their smart city concentration camps.

Agree for the most part. And that means the fifth seal was opened at the crucifixtion of Christ.

I’m confused by what you’re saying. Are the souls under the alter in heaven or no?

So why are these souls under the alter and not in heaven? Are you one of those who believes in soul sleep?

Wrong again. God promised Abraham and his descendants all the land that Abraham could see and and Abraham SOJOURNED IN THE LAND OF PROMISE looking for a city whose builder and maker was God. Heb 11:9 By faith he sojourned in the land of promise, as in a strange country, dwelling in...

I won’t argue the point because your views are by far closer to reality than most peoples.

Anybody else on this forum ever noticed this before?

I would agree agree with you if Paul would have said the earthly body gets a heavenly body but he didn’t say that. Paul said the “bare grain” which is the soul is what gets the heavenly body. Our old body doesn’t need a new body to live in heaven, our soul needs a new body in order to live in...

100% correct except they ascended in the glorified body not spiritually.

Ah so you did that intentionally?

Where do the gospels mention God coming down from heaven and punishing the earth for murdering his son? They don’t mention it. Does that mean it didn’t happen? No it doesn’t. Bible doctrine is always understood by “here a little there a little”. You’re never going to get the complete story from...

Rev 6:11 And white robes were given unto every one of them; and it was said unto them, that they should rest yet for a little season, until their fellowservants also and their brethren, that should be killed as they were, should be fulfilled. Someone explain how that verse isn’t talking about...

Me say your screen name inverted is unholy 666. Is that just a coincidence or did you plan it that way? Me just asking, not accusing.