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  1. Naomi25

    Does he believe he is God?

    I do wonder how people seem to concurrently think Trump is both too stupid to make complete sentences, but also is secretly the most cunning, ruthless, wicked man of all time. I laughed like a loon when he mocked AOC for staging a weeping photo op in a parking lot. Or when he tweeted "boring"...
  2. Naomi25

    The saints of Israel

    Well, it's never quite as cut and dried as that, is it? I would say that I only believe what scripture teaches on the subject...but don't we all? I suppose the fastest way to the finishing point is to lay out what I see scripture as saying on the subject. In Genesis, God gives Abraham a promise...
  3. Naomi25

    Does he believe he is God?

    I'll confess that there is much of American political structure that I am ignorant of. But putting aside the exact procedures that cause the government to run, from what I can see, it is no wonder the President is having to make decisions without perhaps gaining full approval. Granted my memory...
  4. Naomi25

    Buying and selling in the last days

    What I KNOW, is that I provided biblical precedence for it NOT being a physical mark (Deut 6:8). I also know that Rev 1:1-2 informs only the stubbonly oblivious that the book of Revelation is communicating it's very real truths to us in images and symbols. Thus, going on to read such a book in...
  5. Naomi25

    Buying and selling in the last days

    The idea that the "mark of the beast" must be a literal, physical mark on the hand or forehead is just not consistent with scripture itself. As we know, Revelation is a book that delves back into the OT for its images and references. Look in Deut 6: You shall love the LORD your God with all...
  6. Naomi25

    The saints of Israel

    Ah, the strawman of "replacement theology" once again. I can never quite figure out if those banging the drum of RT truly think we believe the above, or if they just find it convenient to yell very loudly that we do... Either way...its still wrong. Sorry.
  7. Naomi25

    Does he believe he is God?

    Donald Trump in the King of something alright....the King of trolling and fishing. He keeps people foaming at the mouth because of his latest Tweet and then quietly goes and passes laws that benefit Americans in regards to taxes, jobs, abortion or the like. Personally...every time the Left...
  8. Naomi25

    Two particular problems with dispensationalism...

    To be honest, it's been so long since we've had this conversation, I'm struggling to remember why its a problem as well! Sorry...I've been crazy busy! I think my point is this: if a person is looking at prophecy as foretelling, rather than forthtelling. What I mean by that is that they see...
  9. Naomi25

    Two particular problems with dispensationalism...

    :D Actually brakelite, I think one of the "best" fits for the 70 weeks I've come across was from Walter Veith in those talks you linked me to. I certainly didn't agree with him on everything, but I found that most interesting and even sound...perhaps even better than what I've heard from Amil...
  10. Naomi25

    Two particular problems with dispensationalism...

    The very large, and profound difference I see here is this: Jesus is God. When Jesus tells you that there is a gap in Isaiah, we can go, "well alright then"...even if there is no direct and specific reference to a gap in the scripture. However, when it comes to the gap that Dispensationalists...
  11. Naomi25

    Two particular problems with dispensationalism...

    Are you saying that they expected it to be during that period? Because I'm not sure we can see that in scripture. Even in the gospels we see a reacurring theme of 'no one knows the day' and of 'delay'. I don't think we can hang too much on the idea that the people living in the "Acts" days...
  12. Naomi25

    Two particular problems with dispensationalism...

    Well, it's not a problem for me either, but I should think it might be for Dispensationalists! If they lay claim to a literalist hermeneutic, and one that says that all prophecy is "history written in advance", and teach a very specific end time event and period, but then have different verses...
  13. Naomi25

    Two particular problems with dispensationalism...

    So...just trying to get this all sorted in my head...the real difference between what you believe and other Dispensationalists, is that they would say Israel's rejection and the 'time of the Church' began at Pentecost (or around then) and you place it at Acts 28 when Paul essentially washed his...
  14. Naomi25

    Two particular problems with dispensationalism...

    How does this 'shortened' period of just under 7 years then fit in with the other passages that Dispensationalists then point to to teach a 7 year Tribulation? Dan 7:25, Dan 12:7, Rev 12:6, 14? How can these numbers be 'literally' accurate, but also the 'shortened' time of Dan 8:14?
  15. Naomi25

    Two particular problems with dispensationalism...

    Well...this could be a bit of the problem. See....I totally don't think Daniel is talking about 7 years 'at the end of time'. I think they miss the symbolic nature of the numbers involved. I think they liberally add a gap that is NOT literally there. Puts a bit of a different shine on it...
  16. Naomi25

    Sabatarianism

    Hey brakelite...I never mind when you 'butt in'! This is a tricky area, because as you say, everyone is different, and everyone is at a different state in their walk. However, it is my belief that in any person, at any stage, we can look at this verse and know it to be true: If we say we have...
  17. Naomi25

    Two particular problems with dispensationalism...

    Hey Mark, thanks for the reply! Just wondering if I can ask....if you see this passage in particular as teaching 'wrath of final judgement' (as I do), how do you then read a 7 year period into the end? I mean...when reading the passages that discuss Christ's return, do you rather naturally see...
  18. Naomi25

    Two particular problems with dispensationalism...

    Forgive me, but, apart from a few differences, that still sounds very much like a Dispensational layout of things. You're very welcome to hold to it, mind you, I just cannot see that it is a 'harmonized' sequence. It's interesting (probably only to me in this particular case!) that you...
  19. Naomi25

    Sabatarianism

    Heb 7:11-28 is all about comparing Christ to Melchizedek, and how, if the 'old' system was working, another High Priest of Melchizedek's order would not have been necessary. This becomes even more evident when another priest arises in the likeness of Melchizedek, who has become a priest, not...
  20. Naomi25

    Sabatarianism

    See....I'm getting this big schism from you. You say, on one hand, that the Sabbath issue is NOT a salvational issue. And yet, on the other hand, you lump it into 'if you don't do it (keep the Sabbath) you don't love Jesus. Which....let's just be honest...is a salvational issue. You speak often...