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Look out your window. Better yet...join your Church in being salt and light and proclaiming the gospel message...the advance of the Kingdom! But if it is by the Spirit of God that I cast out demons, then the kingdom of God has come upon you. -Matthew 12:28 and made us a kingdom, priests to his...

Okay...I think this is a somewhat of a simplified was to describe how death "goes away"...one that doesn't do nearly enough justice to the significance and weight of it, considering what it cost Christ to defeat it for us....but... I still don't see your point. Sure...the bible says that when...

Except this is clearly something he also bestowed authority upon his followers to do also. The seventy-two returned with joy, saying, “Lord, even the demons are subject to us in your name!” And he said to them, “I saw Satan fall like lightning from heaven. Behold, I have given you authority...

Does it? What is the "Kingdom" that is "upon us" that Christ speaks of in Matt 12? What is the "Kingdom" that is handed over to the Father upon his return and final defeat of death in 1 Cor 15? And IF death is finally defeated as the LAST enemy (not second last) when we receive our resurrection...

That's quite true...just as men are quite hopeless at things only women can do! I'm pleased enough with the balance!

I think the fundamental difference you and I stumble over in this case, is perhaps this issue of the timing/capacity of the Millennium. I would say that scripture doesn't leave room for a future one. That every verse that we turn to that speaks of his return gives us yet another aspect of this...

Okay then...tell me...what do those verses say? What are they telling us? And by "us", I mean the Church? What do Rom 9:6-8; Gal 3:29 and Rom 11:17-18 imply? Please tell me....because I'm fascinated by what you could possibly think they might be saying...

I think you missed the obvious there. You said that Christ would: " physically roll the earth". While that might be something to see, and no doubt he could do it if he chose to, I still feel safe saying the bible doesn't mention him "rolling" the earth at any point.

Actually, the bible says the CHURCH has. And considering you claim the bible as your "book" too, you should probably take a look at that, wouldn't you say? But it is not as though the word of God has failed. For not all who are descended from Israel belong to Israel, and not all are children of...

I deny that Christ will return and physically roll the earth. For 1000 years, or a second. And I happily deny the bible says it. And I betcha you can't find it in there either!

Eh! Look, if you're going to disagree with me, at least make an effort to get what I claim right. I don't claim that "all evil" will be gone. I don't even claim that any evil will be gone. Just Satan's ability to hinder the march of the gospel. And in point of fact, where do we see the gospel...

Wow, there is a LOT in this post, and I don't think I can address every point. We can put aside, obviously, what we agree on, but, considering that you DO agree, particularly on the last point, I think my focus here is on how you view what you disagree on. IF we see believers, both dead and...

Absolutely! The feminist movement is terrible! And men who try and join up are a joke and are doing, I think, the same thing Adam did...standing back...or even supporting...while women charge headlong into places they shouldn't go. Now, don't get me wrong...I'm all for biblical equality, but the...

You SAY I'm twisting the scriptures, but am I really? You say that there is a 'huge' difference between Jesus 'showing his power over Satan' and 'giving his Church the ability to cast of demons'...in other words, authority over them and Revelation saying that Satan is bound against decieving the...

Yep...I think on this we'll have to agree to disagree!

Eh...maybe not so gentle..! Let me tell you what I think about this so called 'toxic masulinity' rubbish...:rolleyes: Sure...some men are jerks. But some women are harpies. But men are just men, and so they ought to be. Okay, thanks. I'll try and chisel out some time to do some reading about...

Well...it's not that I'm disagreeing, I'm not there yet...am trying to do some research. I suppose all I'm saying is that even once I've reached my conclusion, I'm probably not going to put as much weight on it as I do on the doctrine I get from scripture. And that's fine...it's okay to have...

Hi Chris, thanks for the reply! But...if the Man of Sin is being held in the bottomless pit, wouldn't that imply he was demonic in nature? Aren't we to believe that the Man who sets himself up to oppose God, while coming with Satan's authority and power, is still just a man? So...You're saying...

See, this is where we'd use our reasoning, and the interpretive variation in the text would allow for such reasoning. If we are upon land, what would we suppose it would be if a 'great shaking' occured? An earthquake, right? If we were upon water? In a boat? A storm, yes? But I'll tell you what...

Well, yes, I suppose we do see it differently. But, like you, I agree that's okay!