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Wait....there was an earthquake....but you think the loosening of the foundations came from the civic turmoil? That came right after the earthquake? And that this civic turmoil put them in such a fuss and bother it managed to pop loose the foundations and spring open the doors and chains? I...

What? Who on earth is Dr Scribe, or Lex? Once again...I have no clue.....

Forgive me, but...how can we see 'right away' that the papacy is the prime candidate for Antichrist? I may just be lacking some essential historical knowledge here, but in any case...I'm not seeing a clear lining up between "little horn from ten horns" and a fallen Roman Empire.

These are all really good points, and I grant them to you. Except, I still hold out on the last one! Regardless of WHY the ECF are 'unanimous' in belief...at least a seeming majority, it is still unwise and just plain outside of wise practice, to build a biblical doctrine on something that is...

I honestly have on idea what you're talking about. Any of this. And believe me, I tried...read it several times. Is there ANYONE on this forum who can translate bbryd for me? I sometimes THINK we could have good conversations, but I simply cannot make head nor tails of what he is on about. Sorry...

I agree. Technology is just a tool...like any other tool humanity has been given by God or come up with with the intelligence he gave us. Be it the wheel, the work cart, the ability to make steel. Mankind can either choose to use it for good (food production, health, education, forwarding of the...

Ha! Well...here we begin to touch on some other issues that would be getting deep...like...do those in the RCC have true faith, or, are those who are saved assured in that salvation? Because on the first...well..as I said, I'll withhold opinion for now while looking at those resources (have...

I'm sorry, but I see this as a bit of a stretch.

Well...going on the common usage of the Greekn word, it seems 'shaken' or 'to shake' would fit best. And considering that 'earthquake' (seismos) is also used in Acts 16:26 to describe the event that loosened Paul and Silas' bonds and set the jail open....I'm not sure we can understand that as a...

Sure! Although, I feel compelled to add.....its not an 'understanding' per se that has me focusing on a 'near future' return...but hope. I see the bible teaching a 'future' return...that's it. That could be near, that could be far. It's hope and hope alone that places it close in time!

I think to some extent, it most certainly does impact the issue. Let me remind you, you are proposing we understand a biblical text based upon the writings of those who are NOT under inspiration of the Holy Spirit. This means that they make mistakes. Even on important issues, well meaning men...

Well...do unto others, really. We always want others who don't agree with us to consider what we write or at the least disagree peaceably, so I try to...even though I don't always suceed! I wasn't trying to be unfair when I said that they 'wrote' something...after all, they did! The written word...

I'm...sorry. But...what? That made absolutely no sense! What looks like the shadow of a frog hopping? Who's on the fourth plane? What IS the fourth plane? And actually, the word used in Matt 24:7 is seismoi, which is to be understood as 'earthquake'. It's branched from seismos, which is defined...

Okay...I have to be honest here...I've never come across "seven ages" in scripture before. And at present, I just don't have time to dig into what you mean when you say this, or the teaching of it...I've just promised brakelite to dig into something else, and that's it, that's my free time and...

Well, to be fair, Rev 20 is the only place in scripture that outright mentions the 1000 years, which is not, strictly, enough to build a whole doctrine on, and yet that's what we see plenty of people doing, no matter their ideas on the Millennium. So, regardless where one lands on this issue...

Ah. And men's evil hearts desire vaccines and education for all. I'm sorry...I just wonder....do your realise that most of the advancements in technology have stemmed from the fact that Christians pushed for education for all, caring for the sick, treating everyone equally....? That the most...

I'm not misunderstanding 1 Peter 5, but I think you might misundertand me. Let me ask you something: In Matt 12:28 and Luke 10:18 we see two things: the first is this: Christ informs the Pharisees that they see what they do in him (the casting out of demons) because the Kingdom has come, and...

Well...I can agree that a counterfeit scenario would most likely come into play here, but I have a question in regards to your idea of 'stripping away those loyal to the throne'. In Matthew 24:24 it says: "For false christs and false prophets will arise and perform great signs and wonders, so...

I...would have thought this self-evident, really. Those of us who have been redeemed by his blood. Okay, I'll throw some bible verses at you. I doubt you'll take them at face value, but ultimately, that's not on me: and to wait for his Son from heaven, whom he raised from the dead, Jesus who...

I'm not sure it WAS a 'line', but the fact that any time a person places an expectant hope or speaks with excitment (both biblical expectations/requirements by the way- Titus 2:13, 2Peter 3:12, 1 Thess 4:18..and many others) about the 'appearing' of our Lord from heaven...you say it is...