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  1. Naomi25

    Prophecy vs. Apocalyptic

    Then Christ didn't answer the question the Disciples put to him. Except....yes he did. It makes literaly no sense for the Disciples to ask about the Temple he JUST said was going to 'come down' and for him to answer them about a future temple that was going to come down instead. You really have...
  2. Naomi25

    Prophecy vs. Apocalyptic

    But I would argue that there isn't such a text. We have Revelation 20 that mentions the 1000 years, yes? Then we see AFTER that 1000 years that Satan is defeated and thrown into the lake of fire (which IS his final defeat), and then also Hades and Death are also thrown into the lake of fire...
  3. Naomi25

    The Restrainer

    Well...I'd probably put these in for consideration: The seventy-two returned with joy, saying, “Lord, even the demons are subject to us in your name!” And he said to them, “I saw Satan fall like lightning from heaven. Behold, I have given you authority to tread on serpents and scorpions, and...
  4. Naomi25

    The Restrainer

    I suppose the meaning could be twofold: Against Christ, or 'in the place of Christ'...is how I'd see it. Which, I suppose, is ultimately the same thing. Anyone putting himself in the place of Christ is against him. But anyone doing the latter would be attempting to...ah...be duplicitous about...
  5. Naomi25

    The Restrainer

    Hi brakelite. Some very interesting and challenging ideas here...many that I do not fundamentally disagree with. Do you have - I want to say 'light reading' as I don't have a huge amount of free time...even though I understand it may not be something one can understand with 'light reading' - on...
  6. Naomi25

    The Restrainer

    I'm fairly certain we've had this conversation recently. But, quickly, let me remind you. I am well aware Satan must be 'loosed' for a little while at the end of the 1000 years. Perhaps you should read the OP? I find it speculation at best that suggests that the burst in technology is by Satanic...
  7. Naomi25

    The Restrainer

    1 Peter 5:8 doesn't speak about Satan being bound or being able to deceive or not deceive anyone. It speaks of him seeking to devour people. Amillennialists don't say that Satan's 'binding' in Rev 20 stops his complete action in human history. When read, we see the passage only speaks about him...
  8. Naomi25

    Covenants

    So...you're a Postmillennialist? Sorry...just trying to get a hold of where you sit. How does the 'come back at the end of the next age' fit with the idea that most of the "age to come" texts we see in scripture seem to speak of the eternal state? If the 'next age' is eternal...how can Christ...
  9. Naomi25

    The Restrainer

    Why not?
  10. Naomi25

    Parables

    Well, you could be right about that, certainly things are not normal.
  11. Naomi25

    The Restrainer

    :rolleyes: I love how you paint it as an either/or thing. Either we believe in Christ with us now....or we believe in him coming to rescue us some sweet by and by... Except...when one reads scripture fully, taking in the breadth of it's promises, we realise that it's both. We have the beauty of...
  12. Naomi25

    The Restrainer

    Well...hang on, you've just made an interesting point about Paul. We DO know himto be fearless in his proclamation of the gospel andthe things of God. And yet...one of your main arguments for the reason of Paul NOT mentioning who the restrainer is in his epistle, is that he fears being arrested...
  13. Naomi25

    The Restrainer

    I think the key word in all this would be "support". We can use these things to 'support' biblical texts...but if the bible is silent on a particular issue, we must not pick something up from history and declare it to be biblically sound. It's a pretty easy distinction...the bible was inspired...
  14. Naomi25

    The Restrainer

    Well, I fully and firmly believe that boards like this should be about discussion, even when it involves differences of opinion. If we sit in our long held beliefs and refuse to be challenged by thought or questions on them, then we cannot with any sort of certainty, be sure, when all is said...
  15. Naomi25

    Covenants

    Mmmm, yes. I also went to Biblehub, found that Greek and did me some transliteration....but as I pointed out, my interpretation seems to come out slightly different to yours, and it shouldn't...so....still no real clarification on that point...sorry. Eh...it's is getting late and my brain is...
  16. Naomi25

    Parables

    Thank you...but I think your applying a degree of subtly to me, that I'm just not capable of!
  17. Naomi25

    The Restrainer

    It's funny, really, that Christians so often argue about the Millennium. What is it that they say "the Millennium...1000 years of peace Christians like to fight about!" When it all comes down to it, I think one thing, but won't care less if I'm wrong, and I don't suppose anyone else will either...
  18. Naomi25

    The Restrainer

    With all due respect...does it? Think about all the things we see the demonic doing in scripture...we see demon oppression/possession is big. These people were often mute and blind or unwell. Some were overly strong. In Acts we even see a girl who could tell the future because of a demon. 2...
  19. Naomi25

    Parables

    Nice to know I'm not alone!
  20. Naomi25

    The Restrainer

    Again...I'd want to see how, specifically, the RCC meets the criteria of the man of lawlessness. Are you talking about the RCC in general, its teachings and beliefs, or are you specifically talking about the office of the Pope and the people who take the chair? It's just that, I'd say from...