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You have the right to believe whatever it is you believe. Doesn't mean I have to agree with it, find it healthy, or anything else.

I have a mountain of evidence showing there's things intrinsically evil in the world. There's no conflict there.

I believe evil is real, with evidence. The example of kids getting raped is just crazy plain. Let alone a bunch of the others ones. I would be blind to ignore that mountain of evidence.

Well, that is unusual even for an agnostic person. I'm not sure what you hope to accomplish here since you don't believe anything is evil.

I'm sorry, but you are continually refusing to answer my question. A) Is the father beating and raping his daughter intrinsically evil? B) Or is it only evil because some human declared it to be so and believes it to be so? I do believe that such is intrinsically evil (A). If you do not...

I find that entire discussion to be sematic difference and people just talking past each other. Everyone agrees that we don't earn our way to heaven, and everyone agrees that a disciple of Christ should be doing the things He said. OSAS is a different discussion. I'm glad. Honestly I've had...

I'm not asking you whether or not the rapist thought his actions were wrong. I'm asking: were his actions wrong? Is it intrinsically wrong for a father to rape and beat his daughter? Or is such "wrongness" only a social construct?

Coming back to this now that I has the time to properly address it. Honestly, I see you and everyone else here pretty much arguing the same point, but using different words/definitions as you do so, causing people to talk past each other. Ok, that was actually really short.

I wasn't stating anything about your personal faith.

So... in your mind if a father goes and rapes and beats his daughter, that... only wrong if some human decides it is wrong...?

I was asking specifically about your views. That's why I asked you by name.

For starters, Marks I want to thank you for addressing my question, even though I saw your post and did chuckle to myself for about how I should specified a pithy response. Ok. Here is where I'm seeing a lot of confusion coming from word choice and a person's specific definitions of those...

Marks, would you care to explain your views on this subject then?

If a person turns to a little child and rapes them, then that is evil. It's not "evil" because humans declared it to be so, but because it intrinsically is evil. There's no getting around that. Entanglement, do you find a child getting raped to only be evil because man declared it to be, or...

@Behold, you are EXTREMELY prideful, very much look down on all others with continual insults, and want everyone to follow you. No. A person should follow Christ. I wish you well on your life journey, and I'm going to go follow Christ.

Cast the beam out of your own eye.

I try my hardest to understand everyone’s POV, those I agree with and those I find to be trash. I admittedly don’t have much patience for when poster is egotistical, looks down on others, or relies on insults Now to specifications address you question and Behold: no I cannot. Other than...

And it is NOT to be treated cheaply as if a disciple of Christ can go about doing anything they want. NO! Each disicple of Christ is bought with a price higher than you or I can fathom. We are each charged to follow Him. It is a calling - straight from God Himself. And yes, that means a...

There is a danger in this line of logic -- that if taken to far it gives the impression you’re equating disciple of Christ = "yes, I believe in Christ" and then continuing to kiss Satan's feet the exact same you did before. No repentance. No rebirth. No real faith. Rather, it is an entire...

Behold, ChristimaticLady is simply explaining how she believes that God empowers His disciples to keep His commandments*. It's a very simple concept, widely believed throughout Christendom, including many Protestants, Catholics, LDS, etc. *CL, if I am misunderstanding you, please accept my...