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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    I know what you mean about fast moving threads. I logged today about 7:30 and still haven't read all the replies from yesterday to today! Every time I think I've replied adequately, there are more replies! Gotta love these boards huh? I know that Gentiles too came under the hearing of the...
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    Yes, they were Gentile exceptions, why? Because they believed the servant Jonah that God sent to preach to them. They heeded the message proclaimed and believed in God, from the greatest of them to the least of them. When you read the entire accounting, you find not only did Jonah not want to...
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    Yes, they entered the millennial Kingdom of God spiritually while still alive on the earth before they died. Because the millennial Kingdom is not one thousand years to come but is TIME that began with the first advent of Christ and shall not end until this particular time shall be no longer...
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    We may as well be talking to the wall!
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    Hypothetical analogy is a good way to define what you imagine! Because clearly you have nothing from the Bible to prove your hypothetical analogy!
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    You can make all the assumptions you wish, in fact you usually do! While you're busy making assumptions without biblical proof texts, I'll continue to prove what I allege as biblical using the Word of God and not my opinions, or assumptions! It's impossible not to notice how the Amils on this...
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    You have not yet shown that you have properly understood what the prophets foretell concerning the coming of Christ. The Kingdom of God that Christ ushered in is NOT physical, it is a spiritual Kingdom. While looking for a physical fulfillment of the prophets, do you not understand that man...
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    Brings peace for whom? The whole earth? Love, joy and peace come only to those who are no longer in bondage to fear of death because they have been born again through the Spirit and have everlasting life. Scripture is clear that sin and physical death through sin shall be part of life on this...
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    The scene depicted cannot be physical, because then it makes zero sense. John is shown a vision of spiritually alive saints in heaven not on earth.
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    Does physical death hurt or destroy those who by grace through faith have come to mount Sion, the city of the living God, heavenly Jerusalem and innumerable company of angels? When we have been born again through Christ's Spirit are we not already spiritually on the holy mountain of God where...
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    Not all the peoples of all the nations believe in Christ! How does Satan keep unsaved man from being deceived? The heart in unbelief is what defiles a man. Using the wicked heart in unbelief is how Satan is able to hold unsaved mankind in bondage to fear of death as the Gospel is being...
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    What is cuckoo is believing there shall be peace on THIS earth for one thousand years! Prove what you allege!
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    Before the advent of Christ coming to earth a man, only the nation of Israel had been given the Word of God through the prophets and the law. These were to point the nation of Israel to the Messiah/Savior who was to come. The Jewish nation was alone chosen to be light bearers to all the...
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    Do you agree the deception that Satan had power over was holding the nations of the world in bondage to fear of death? Hebrews 2:15 (KJV) And deliver them who through fear of death were all their lifetime subject to bondage. Do you also agree this bondage to hold nations of the world in...
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    Where does Scripture show there shall be peace on THIS earth when Satan is bound?
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    Again, opinions without biblical proofs??? Do you even know how Gog and Magog are defined? Satan is set free to deceive the nations of those who are Gog (antichrists) and (Magog) antichristians, but not to bring peace to the world, not even Israel. Rev 20 clearly shows Satan gathering those...
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    If Satan is still deceiving all the peoples in all the nations how are so many from all the nations of the world saved? How is the Kingdom of God being built as the Gospel is proclaimed if not through the power of the Holy Spirit as He gives everlasting life to whosoever believes from among all...
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    Since Satan has been bound he is only able to deceive those among all the nations of the world who have not been born again. His ability to deceive those in Christ through fear over the power of death is broken in Christ, that all who have faith are no longer being deceived by fear of death as...
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    You think Rev 14 is depicting a scene on earth because it says they are with the Lamb standing on Mt Sion? Will the four beasts the 144,000 sing before be on the earth also? Are not these the same four beasts of 4:6 that are full of eyes before and behind, vs 8 each having six wings, 5:6 stand...
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    According to Scripture Satan is bound that he should deceive the nations no longer. If he is not presently bound how are so many from all the nations of the world no longer deceived by him and have turned to Christ for everlasting life?