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    The battle of Gog and Magog does not happen until after the thousand year reign of Christ

    Do you know what the mystery of God is finished refers to when there should be time no longer?
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    The battle of Gog and Magog does not happen until after the thousand year reign of Christ

    Prove what you allege! I don't deny Ecc 1:4 because I know how it can be reconciled with this passage: 2 Peter 3:10 (KJV) But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the...
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    But shun profane and vain babblings

    Prove what you allege! Anyone can quote Scripture, but only those with eyes to see and ears to hear, through the power of the Holy Spirit are able to DISCERN Scripture. You have not discernment, and sadly you prove this again and again.
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    But shun profane and vain babblings

    While you don't understand the doctrine of Amil, you have the audacity to call profane and vain babblings that are ungodly and have erred from the truth!!! Who among Amils has said THE resurrection is past? Have we not repeatedly said to YOU the FIRST resurrection is past? Why would we say...
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    But shun profane and vain babblings

    It's not what John writes in Rev 20 that is in question! It's how those who believe a/the thousand years is ONE thousand years when that is not what John has said. The Word of God is not a problem it is Premillennialists lack of understanding it that is! There cannot be contradictions found...
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    When was the A.O.D fulfilled?

    Soul is defined as breath, meaning possesses life through mind & heart, spirit! Wherever life, whether physical or spiritual life is found it is called a living soul. That's how John saw 'souls' alive in heaven after they had been martyred for their faith. They are the spiritual body of...
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    But shun profane and vain babblings

    Why have you begun another thread about the first resurrection? You still have unanswered questions from the other post on the same topic. It seems you have no answers for your contradicting doctrine, so you want to pretend like this is not already being thoroughly discussed. Why not answer...
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    The battle of Gog and Magog does not happen until after the thousand year reign of Christ

    How could the last trumpet be Jesus during His ministry since John writes that when the seventh trumpet begins to sound time shall be no longer? (Rev 10:5-7)
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    The battle of Gog and Magog does not happen until after the thousand year reign of Christ

    When saints are resurrected from the graves their glorified body will be immortal & incorruptible. If they arose bodily when Christ rose from the dead, that would cause contradiction, because Paul tells us saints will be bodily resurrected immortal when the last trumpet sounds. And Christ says...
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    The battle of Gog and Magog does not happen until after the thousand year reign of Christ

    I agree! But only Christ is the firstfruits from the dead PHYSICALLY. The Old Covenant faithful are firstfruits SPIRITUALLY. They arose from the graves and as spiritual body of Christ ascended with Christ to heaven. They were sown natural body and raised a spiritual body (1Cor 14:44) because...
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    The battle of Gog and Magog does not happen until after the thousand year reign of Christ

    I believe John is using Rev 20 to show a distinction and what happens to those who have been born again, and those who live and die in unbelief. There are some who have been martyred for their faith whom John sees alive in heaven. But there are also those who have died in unbelief, who shall...
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    The battle of Gog and Magog does not happen until after the thousand year reign of Christ

    There is no physical resurrection from the graves until the hour coming when the last trumpet sounds. Those who have done good will be physically resurrected to life again, and those who have done evil resurrected for damnation.
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    The battle of Gog and Magog does not happen until after the thousand year reign of Christ

    I don't necessarily disagree! But I feel there is less confusion, at least for me, to understand the first resurrection is of Christ alone. Those who are born again share in Christ's resurrection (1st) life through His Spirit, but we are not bodily resurrected as Christ was until the hour...
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    The battle of Gog and Magog does not happen until after the thousand year reign of Christ

    I don't know if he's being deliberately obtuse, or really does not understand???
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    The battle of Gog and Magog does not happen until after the thousand year reign of Christ

    You're confused because you don't know what or WHO the first resurrection is! For the umpteenth time the first resurrection is not physical saints being resurrected from the dead. The first resurrection IS THE RESURRECTION OF CHRIST THAT MAN MUST HAVE PART IN BEFORE THEY DIE TO OVERCOME THE...
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    The battle of Gog and Magog does not happen until after the thousand year reign of Christ

    They haven't been physically resurrected yet! None who have died shall be physically resurrected until the hour coming when the last trumpet sounds. Then ALL who are in the graves shall come out, those who have done good resurrected to life, and those who have done evil resurrected to damnation.
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    The battle of Gog and Magog does not happen until after the thousand year reign of Christ

    Paul writes there is a natural body, and a spiritual body. The natural body he writes is of the earth and like Adam. That which is spiritual is like Christ and of heaven, a celestial/spiritual body. Just as in physical life mankind bears the image of the earthy, Adam, so too after death...
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    The battle of Gog and Magog does not happen until after the thousand year reign of Christ

    Yes, absolutely! They were martyred for their faith during this time John writes a thousand years. They weren't all martyred at the same time so they might all live and reign with Christ for exactly ONE thousand years. They are all at various times throughout this time symbolized 'a/the'...
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    The battle of Gog and Magog does not happen until after the thousand year reign of Christ

    I agree! Saints of Old who died in faith waiting and looking for the promised Messiah to come have indeed arisen from the graves AFTER the RESURRECTION of Christ. The verse tells us only that those who slept arose, it does not say they were bodily resurrected from the graves. Matthew...