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Are you a FGT? I wanted to talk directly with a FGT about FGT. Just wanted to know if I found what I was looking for.

So, if it is by "grace through faith" that we are saved, if the "grace through faith" went away, salvation would also go away, correct?

That's kind of what I was thinking lol

Hopefully it sounds like Romans 7 lol Unsaved men do not merely "tend" toward sin, sin works its own works, even contrary to their intentions and best efforts, in them. That's what I believe Romans 7 teaches.

The body must be destroyed--we must die with Christ--because it is defiled, and cannot be purged, like the Law says about earthen vessels. When the body of sin works works in the young child and defiled its conscience.

I encourage you to publish a thread focusing on which ever verse captures your attention.

Yup, same Jesus likens our relationship with Him to branches and the Vine that put them forth--the life is in the Vine, not the branch, so the branch must abide in the Vine to receive the substance in the Vine, and if the branch does not abide, it does not retain the life ("and the eternal life...

The thread is about Matthew 18.

Historical fact. Unchangeable rock solid foundational reality. Take it to the bank.

It is not relevant to the topic.

In Romans 7, Paul talks about this reality--how Paul worked works he didn't work but that were worked in him by sin itself. That is the condition all those born into Adam are born into.

Irrelevant.

Remember the Law says once an earthen vessel is defiled, it (unlike metal vessels) cannot be cleansed, but must be destroyed : the body is made of clay, and has been irrevocably defiled, and must be destroyed, and it is destroyed when we believe in Christ, because we share in His death.

The baby is born with the body of sin, and the baby behaves very self-centeredly, but the baby is unaware, and the conscience undefiled, until he knows good and evil and dies inwardly when his conscience is defiled by the works he is being enslaved to by the works produced by the body of sin...

Nope, the same Christ says branches that don't abide in Him don't bear fruit (apart from Him we can do nothing), so the Father cuts them off, and they dry up, and they are thrown in the fire. Moreover, I invite you to answer Matthew 18, where God rescinds His forgiveness from the unforgiving...

The baby is born with the body of sin, but his conscience is not yet stained, so he is not yet dead, it seems (Paul says he was once alive but when the commandment came--at the age of accountability, children become ashamed of their nakedness, as Adam and Eve after eating from the Tree of the...

Nope, no flaw : we are unconditionally righteous, but not all walk in that unconditional righteousness (eg, the "lazy" servant, who does not walk in the gift of righteousness Mt 25). Nope, those BORN OF Adam are all unconditionally sinful by nature (it's just a question of whether they ADMIT...

No, those IN CHRIST are not all humanity. Christ is the new Adam, head of a new human race. Nope, Adam had explicit knowledge from God, and Moses received the same. "By the Law comes the knowledge of sin"

1. Through one sin all became sinners in Adam, just so, through Christ's act of obedience we become righteous in Christ (para). 2. The rest didn't "transgress" bc they hadn't been directly spoken to and commanded by God--notice "until Moses" (the other time God made known His will) is the other...

I wonder if any FGT can explain.