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  1. GracePeace

    OSAS : Gnostic Heresy

    What does the parable of the unforgiving steward, which you said you're not beholden to, mean to you?
  2. GracePeace

    OSAS : Gnostic Heresy

    Some are happy to discuss not Scripture but their tradition, then, when Scripture corners them, they desperately seek a way to not be subject to Scripture (eg, "I don't submit to parables... at least not after i find out, through argumentation, that there's no way I can square them with my...
  3. GracePeace

    OSAS : Gnostic Heresy

    I have encountered so much gobbledygook here it's astonishing.
  4. GracePeace

    OSAS : Gnostic Heresy

    Clarification : the individual parts are plain, but it's impossible to understand how they all fit together, because so many of the plain truths seem, on the surface, to be mutually exclusive. Getting a coherent and consistent message from the Bible takes divine intervention.
  5. GracePeace

    OSAS : Gnostic Heresy

    Nope, Jesus does not speak in vain, He speaks bc God leads Him to speak, and He interprets His parables authoritatively, so, no, they're not up to personal interpretation. When Jesus says "So My Father will treat you if you do not forgive", that's what the parable means.
  6. GracePeace

    OSAS : Gnostic Heresy

    Nope, not supported by the parables--but, no need to fear, you've formulated a solution : You've arbitrarily decided they don't apply to you, either bc they're lies (they're not, they're just concealed truth--Jesus explains one in Mt 13), or else that you'll just not submit to God's Truth...
  7. GracePeace

    OSAS : Gnostic Heresy

    God "promises" to rescind forgiveness if you don't forgive. Jesus faithfully depicts God in the parables. God isn't unjust or blind, but repays men according to their works (Ro 2:6-16). He doesn't laugh at wickedness, like your "Christ alone" conception, where you think God only sees Christ...
  8. GracePeace

    OSAS : Gnostic Heresy

    Oops, Jesus didn't say His parables were lies, He turned right around explained the hidden meaning of that parable to His disciples, so the parables contain God's Truth--God's Word that you, to preserve your tradition, have stated you have no esteem for.
  9. GracePeace

    OSAS : Gnostic Heresy

    You've made your point ("These parables threaten my tradition--therefore, God never intended them for believers, and I don't care what they say!"), so quit wasting your time talking with an "ignorant" person--see yourself out of the conversation.
  10. GracePeace

    OSAS : Gnostic Heresy

    You've had to use mental gymnastics, gobbledygook, to try to distance yourself from those parables, because you recognized they threatened your traditions, so don't come back now and pretend you're merely objecting to my "interpretations" of the parables.
  11. GracePeace

    OSAS : Gnostic Heresy

    @christiansoldier Same as I said to Taylor : no sense in wasting resources repeating the same truths endlessly when you have no appetite for it, but adhere to your traditions, sitting here spewing your empty gobbledygook ("Jesus's parables aren't true!" Or "I don't need to care or submit to what...
  12. GracePeace

    OSAS : Gnostic Heresy

    Jesus didn't rejoice in wreaking destruction because the parables were LIES. The parables were merely God's Truth DISGUISED. (This is a "basic" truth your "teachers" apparently haven't taught you yet.) Jesus turns around and EXPLAINS the truth He hid in the parable to His disciples. This means...
  13. GracePeace

    OSAS : Gnostic Heresy

    Guy, you are not in a position to teach anything to me. You are in rebellion against God's Word--the parables. Go publish your heresy (your rebellion against the parables) to your Calvinist buddies and see what they think.
  14. GracePeace

    OSAS : Gnostic Heresy

    When you objected "parables were for crowds, not disciples", you were citing Matthew 13. In it, the disciples asked, "Why do you preach in parables to the crowds?" Jesus said, "To you is given the truth of the Kingdom" So, there was a distinction between the crowd and the disciples. So, are you...
  15. GracePeace

    OSAS : Gnostic Heresy

    That's not true. I despise the idea of God being a Father, yet I am forced to accept it. My father abandoned us, and my step father was a Muslim terrorist. I have no reason to want God to be a father.
  16. GracePeace

    OSAS : Gnostic Heresy

    Jesus spoke the parable of the unforgiving steward to Peter. You don't like the truth of the parable because it threatens your tradition. That's fine, but the parable for was Peter, who was a disciple, not for the crowds. Therefore, the parable is for you.
  17. GracePeace

    OSAS : Gnostic Heresy

    All right, man, nice talking with you--no sense in keeping on wasting my resources repeatedly citing the same verses of Scripture over and over! Thanks for joining the convo!
  18. GracePeace

    OSAS : Gnostic Heresy

    No one is forcing you to pretend to discuss anything with me. Go believe what ever pleases you.
  19. GracePeace

    OSAS : Gnostic Heresy

    1. Nope, Jesus spoke this parable to Peter and the disciples in response to Peter asking "How many times should I forgive my brother who sins against me?" 2. In the case of the Parable of the Sower, to which you refer, Jesus immediately turned around and broke the parable down to the disciples...
  20. GracePeace

    OSAS : Gnostic Heresy

    Yet you claim the Holy Spirit leads you to reject the Word of God, the parables... not sure you're qualified to tell me anything about the Word of God.