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  1. Naomi25

    Has anyone changed their mind...?

    If I understand you correctly here, brakelite, I would suppose that yes, it IS possible to be sure in our positions 'now', but still believe that you could be shown something new in the Lord. I think this because we must all acknowledge we don't know everything and that our current beliefs are...
  2. Naomi25

    Easter is not about sacrifice....

    I've felt called lately to become more involved in my Church. Which, probably doesn't sound like much, or like a given, but for someone who is not well, it's a pretty big leap of faith. I'm trusting God will provide the energy I need to be "out" so much. But...it's a good feeling, becoming a...
  3. Naomi25

    Pre Tribulation Rapture

    No...they would be a challenge if I accepted their validity here, which I don't. If I wanted to know what Pastor Blogs or whoever thought on an issue, I would search out his site and find out. On this forum I seek to interact with members and find out what THEY think scripture says. If they want...
  4. Naomi25

    Pre Tribulation Rapture

    Wouldn't know...you never throw any at me.
  5. Naomi25

    Deception

    Yes...'evil' seminaries, where they teach people to think. Ug! Seriously. How is it that people are not aware that the Wailing Wall is a RETAINING WALL?! Does anybody know what a retaining wall is? Look it up...
  6. Naomi25

    Pre Tribulation Rapture

    Haven't got the slightest bit of interest in watching even a minute of those videos. So...you might be saving yourself typing time, but you're gaining yourself nothing else.
  7. Naomi25

    Deception

    I was listening to something that touched on this just today! See, your house is left to you desolate. For I tell you, you will not see me again, until you say, ‘Blessed is he who comes in the name of the Lord.’” Jesus left the temple and was going away, when his disciples came to point out...
  8. Naomi25

    Pre Tribulation Rapture

    I could not have said that better. The real problem comes when healthy dialogue cannot come despite the differences. I don't mind the fact that you think I'm wrong...clearly I think you are mistaken as well. I enjoy the challenge of others trying to poke holes in my theology and vise versa, and...
  9. Naomi25

    Prophecy vs. Apocalyptic

    So, what you're really saying is that you don't have a hermeneutic. Or, that you feel comfortable jumping hermeneutics (because everyone uses hermeneutics, whether they think so or not)...like...switching from Dispensationalism to Amillennialism, in your interpretive grid...if you think the text...
  10. Naomi25

    Prophecy vs. Apocalyptic

    And I'd say that it would be a mistake to miss the very obvious references to both the plagues of Egypt and how both of them relate to creation, and how people have always had a tendancy to worship created things rather than the Creator (Rom 1:25). Creation: darkness, light, heavens and earth...
  11. Naomi25

    Prophecy vs. Apocalyptic

    :D Whenever I get a reply from you, I'm like, "yikes, here I go...I'm in for a long one!" So...here we go..! Nothing to suggest V24 comes after V23 except that it does! And that in any normal reading one would understanding the wording it uses to mean just that! If I told you this: "It goes in...
  12. Naomi25

    God's Anointed Bible Prophecy Teachers All say the Rapture is very Near!!

    I know! I read the first two and was so horrified I couldn't go on. I know these things happened, and in a sense we should acknowledge the horrors our earlier brothers and sisters endured for their faith.....but I agree...putting so much detail was....not called for.
  13. Naomi25

    Pre Tribulation Rapture

    I didn't insist that I HAD to be right, if you'll read again. I know I'm not perfect, and thus my interpretation of scripture may not be. But my point was not that my opinion was superior to others...it was that I take the time to think through an argument or position myself, and then present...
  14. Naomi25

    Deception

    :D I'm In Australia!! Just as well Jesus is only talking to the Christians of the time, then.
  15. Naomi25

    God's Anointed Bible Prophecy Teachers All say the Rapture is very Near!!

    Forgive me, but...haven't these guys been blowing this trumpet (pun intended) for years and years now? I fully acknowledge Christ's return and long for it, but any guy who thinks he can put a ticket on it and whip people up for excitment or book sales...is not reading scripture correctly. Verses...
  16. Naomi25

    Deception

    I see verses 15-21 as specifically dealing with 70AD, but as I said, do not discount the possibility of it being a 'type' of something else coming. Verses 4-14 seem to be dealing with signs that will cover this whole period, and indeed, we see them. And after the 'temple' speech, he jumps...
  17. Naomi25

    Has anyone changed their mind...?

    Wow...what a tough question! I think I have to say no. I have had my mind changed over the course of my Christian walk, some amazing moments where I feel God has just led me to new understanding of his word. So...I'm not opposed to learning new things...I just want to be convinced, biblically...
  18. Naomi25

    Deception

    I suppose calling it "the Rapture" does make it confusing with the Pre-trib Rapture, doesn't it? I suppose we (who do so, even though we're not talking about a pre-trib one), do so because we see it as the same sort of 'event', just the timing is quite different. And...well...the timing changes...
  19. Naomi25

    Pre Tribulation Rapture

    Yep. Says the Amillennialist who takes the time to do her own research and type up her own biblical passages in support of her own opinions when she presents them. Perhaps I am wrong...who knows. But at least I'm not lazy. People come to these forums to engage in conversation and debate with...
  20. Naomi25

    Deception

    I don't believe in a Pre-Tribulational Rapture, if that's what you mean. But as far as 'believing in a Rapture' goes, we have plenty of bible verses that speak of Christians who are alive at the time of Christ's return being gathered together and lifted up to meet him in the air. What on earth...