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  1. Naomi25

    Pre Tribulation Rapture

    Spam. Take the time to say it yourself or don't bother. No one has to time or inclination to watch this stuff.
  2. Naomi25

    Rapture Top Dogs Admit no Proof Exists.

    Finished, in "completely and totally won and achieved", absolutely! That is why we can say that he reigns now. But as far as fully consumating those promises...well...he has yet to return, doesn't he? He has yet to put the final word to sin and death, even though they are fully defeated things...
  3. Naomi25

    Rapture Top Dogs Admit no Proof Exists.

    I don't lay claim to the phrase...reformed theology is big on it and how it explains so much of the 'promises now'....but...not fulfilled. "Kingdom now"...but...not fulfilled. And those thoughts are truly seen all throughout scripture. Therefore it seems to be an...apt description.
  4. Naomi25

    Rapture Top Dogs Admit no Proof Exists.

    Yes. I think the preaching of the gospel to the ends of the earth is an ongoing thing as well, which would also seem to be intimately tied in with people...Gentiles "coming in" to the Kingdom. There is a definite case of "Already, Not Yet" to it all, where we have in part, receive in part, but...
  5. Naomi25

    Rapture Top Dogs Admit no Proof Exists.

    You're talking about 1 Peter 3:19, right? "in which he went and proclaimed to the spirits in prison" A couple of things. First...using a single, somewhat obscure verse to try and change how all of SALVATION and JUDGEMENT works, is problematic at best. Second, if we really consider this single...
  6. Naomi25

    Deception

    What do I think? I think anyone reading Matt 24 with a lick of sense can SEE what Christ is telling them. Because he just tells them. Jesus Foretells Destruction of the Temple Jesus left the temple and was going away, when his disciples came to point out to him the buildings of the temple. But...
  7. Naomi25

    Rapture Top Dogs Admit no Proof Exists.

    Perhaps you could take a Poll? How many people out there consider the rest of the NT "clearer" in general than Revelation? But, as far as me "planting an image"...I think that's a shaky accusation. Even if we say that Revelation is crystal clear, we have one spot, Chapter 20, where the 1000...
  8. Naomi25

    Rapture Top Dogs Admit no Proof Exists.

    Ooookay. So...this doesn't mean much to you then? And just as it is appointed for man to die once, and after that comes judgment, -Hebrews 9:27 So all those people who perished in Sodom and Gomorrah; even though they died because of their sin....died IN their sin...you think when they stand...
  9. Naomi25

    Deception

    Yes, and I am sure that in these tours people are told that the Wailing Wall was a retaining wall of the temple. Do you know what a "retaining wall" is? It's the wall you build outside the structure itself to ensure the foundation surrounding the temple is secure. It is not the foundation...or...
  10. Naomi25

    Poll: Best age for first tattoo?

    I see the point your making, but I still feel it would be entirely dependant on the individual. God leads everyone differently. Some do take time in feeling led, while others become certain swiftly. And sometimes age is not a factor in this...spiritual maturity is.
  11. Naomi25

    Rapture Top Dogs Admit no Proof Exists.

    Oh, come on...that doesn't even make sense. My connecting LIKE passages is "isolating" scripture? Do you have even the slightest idea of what people do to pull together doctrines? Without it we wouldn't have the doctrine of the Trinity...and I would hope you see the importance and centrality of...
  12. Naomi25

    Rapture Top Dogs Admit no Proof Exists.

    So...your saying that there's hope for them yet??! They were put to death by God for sins of the highest...but until the GWT we can't know, really, which way all those people are going, huh? Gee...I guess this salvation thing is more open-ended then we have been supposing.
  13. Naomi25

    Rapture Top Dogs Admit no Proof Exists.

    Really? Death is Satan? Come on. It doesn't even say that. Death and Satan are not one and the same. Satan may USE death, but Revelation, if nothing else, makes clear there is a difference. If that's all you've got, I'm sorry. But the passage says what it says. If you can produce some other...
  14. Naomi25

    Rapture Top Dogs Admit no Proof Exists.

    And thus we see the real problem. Letting my "mind wander" means I don't see verses in isolation of each other. In such a fashion we are able to see the connection between Eph 1:20 telling us that Christ already has all authorities under his feet, and 1 Cor 15 telling us what will happen after...
  15. Naomi25

    Rapture Top Dogs Admit no Proof Exists.

    Oh. Please. Please don't tell me you understand that passage to be talking about the initial judgement that took them down. You do understand it's talking about what came after that for them, yeah? That's why it says "eternal". It's talking about the judgement that comes AFTER death...not just...
  16. Naomi25

    Deception

    I don't see the mark of the beast as a physical mark, but I have to agree that you've stepped away from the true intent of Matt 24:19. The passage around v19 is clearly speaking of the AD70 destruction of the temple. There are several reasons we can determine this. Christ speaks of Judea, so...
  17. Naomi25

    Biblical Timeline leading up to the end

    Hmmm, sure. The fact that you do exactly the same thing to us, repeatedly, doesn't seem to enter your mind at all. But I don't think I've come across anyone as bad as you and CoreIssue when it comes to systemically NOT refuting things with scripture, or presenting your thoughts with scripture...
  18. Naomi25

    amillennialism

    Ah, what's that wonderful verse about a dog returning to his vomit? Once again you totally smear Amillennialism without a shred of biblical proof on your side. If you think all those things that you just listed are horrifyingly bad and wrong and shame on us...show us our 'bad' from scripture...
  19. Naomi25

    Poll: Best age for first tattoo?

    I feel that this is sort of an odd question for a poll and just outright. First...it sort of implies that there WILL be an age for a first tattoo, and for many people this question just isn't part of their life. Then you have people who feel that they are being led by scripture to avoid ink, and...
  20. Naomi25

    Biblical Timeline leading up to the end

    At least the "blind" in this occasion hold forth their doctrines with multiple scriptures in support of it. If you disagree with it you could always present scripture showing it to be wrong. Except, that's not really what you guys do, is it? You slam us, deride us, all the while quoting...