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  1. dad

    We are judged by works, not by faith

    Explain why a parent corrects their child? It is because the child did something wrong and needs correction. If it is serious, even chastisement. That is precisely what is in the bible. You thought He corrected EVERY one that came to Him for kicks?? In other words the saved. The saved already...
  2. dad

    We are judged by works, not by faith

    What you are is barely literate in English I guess. Yes there are and they trespass and are corrected by God. Are you suggesting that He does not chasten you??? Hebrews 12:5 And ye have forgotten the exhortation which speaketh unto you as unto children, My son, despise not thou the chastening...
  3. dad

    We are judged by works, not by faith

    No idea what you are talking about. Temptation is like birds flying over your head. Just don't let them nest in your hair. You twist words dishonestly. Yet again, as is now expected. Work on that mr perfect Washes away sin. Your idea that we don't need correction after coming to Jesus is...
  4. dad

    We are judged by works, not by faith

    The bible says He corrects every one that comes to Him. Don't pretend it was my idea. Such delusion and deception is not a mark of perfection.
  5. dad

    We are judged by works, not by faith

    People who think that God has nothing to correct them for can think whatever they like, they are wrong. Time to come down off your high horse mr perfect and admit what you are.
  6. dad

    We are judged by works, not by faith

    His strength is made perfect in our weakness. His sacrifice is what saved us. Not works. God only looks at the blood of Jesus and if we have that we are good. Like in Egypt the blood was on the door. The angel never took a long quiz checklist for each person's deeds in the house to pass over...
  7. dad

    We are judged by works, not by faith

    Jesus said there would be trespasses from brothers and that He chastened all people who come to Him. If you need no correction or chastening and never trespass, where does that leave you? How would you know? Not like you are a sinner! :) But Jesus did not say brethren scheduled trespasses only...
  8. dad

    We are judged by works, not by faith

    Romans 7:24 O wretched man that I am! who shall deliver me from the body of this death? Nothing 'blind' about that verse. People that think they have arrived at perfection are wretched. Revelation 3:17 Because thou sayest, I am rich, and increased with goods, and have need of nothing; and...
  9. dad

    We are judged by works, not by faith

    I think even people in the old testament were save by believing He would come one day actually. You can't even hit the dartboard, let alone get a bullseye. Part of that hope is that He lives with us here on earth, and chastens and guides us. Jesus makes us perfect. Not work of the flesh...
  10. dad

    We are judged by works, not by faith

    Well, you can call a manure pile a gem if you like. However, the bible is full of it's heros sinning and trespassing and falling and learning to do better. Did David get unsaved when he numbered Israel against God's will, and lusted after another man's wife? No. He got judged and punished...
  11. dad

    We are judged by works, not by faith

    Say what? Did the child Jesus say, like Paul, 'O wretched man that I am'? Lie. To be saved we need to repent. Your claims of perfection after repenting are made up. The righteousness of God is Jesus! He helps us be like Him. That requires judgments and chastening etc. People did not walk out...
  12. dad

    We are judged by works, not by faith

    No it makes it something Jesus pointed out. We are to forgive...and if people were perfect there would be no need. Perfect people sin??? Why would anyone ever need to forgive a perfect sinless saint?? Of course He did not ask us to sin. He pointed out that we would still need forgiveness for...
  13. dad

    We are judged by works, not by faith

    So when Jesus told His disciples to not let their heart be troubled, you think they were not saved?? Did you take that to mean that if someone like Martha was impatient (Jesus took so long to get to Lazarus's grave) they were not saved?? Did you think that meant that when they first started...
  14. dad

    We are judged by works, not by faith

    No, that was Paul talking and still very much alive and on planet earth. Once saved we have repented. Our eternal life does not then hinge on whether we glance at a chic before catching ourselves etc The only manner that matters is if Jesus is in us and we accepted Him. Rather than strain at...
  15. dad

    We are judged by works, not by faith

    James 5:16 Confess your faults one to another, and pray one for another, that ye may be healed. The effectual fervent prayer of a righteous man availeth much. Those who claim to have no sin cannot do that.
  16. dad

    We are judged by works, not by faith

    Not that I have already obtained this or am already perfect, but I press on to make it my own, because Christ Jesus has made me his own. Philippians 3:12 You should be so lucky He chastens us and makes us bear fruit. As one pastor put it "perfectionism is really the sin of pride...
  17. dad

    We are judged by works, not by faith

    What verse? Babies are pure, but if they think their diapers are clean all the time they aren't fooling anyone. No, your is not that you have Him working on you, it is that you think you have arrived in some sort of sinless nirvana already that is only maintained by your wonderfulness and...
  18. dad

    We are judged by works, not by faith

    Jesus said brethren are trespassing against us often! Overruled. His correction in believers means they do a lot better. He helps us. Those who think they don't need help look to their own righteousness and works and goodness.
  19. dad

    We are judged by works, not by faith

    Off tangent blather More pretense of sinless perfection. Whom the Lord loves He chastens. You thought they were chastened for being perfect? Getting people to be honest is a struggle. I believe in the way He spoke about and does. That way leaves us still in need of Him working in us...
  20. dad

    We are judged by works, not by faith

    Paul worked and was still wretched. What stops some people from assuming that still imperfect brethren (as all are) have stopped working? Realizing work is not what saves us does not mean we don't work like hec after we are saved out of love and gratitude. The work of Christ is what is making us...