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  1. keithr

    Do you accept this a Biblical fact or fiction?:

    If Jehovah, who is referenced throughout the Old Testament, is Jesus, then who is Jesus' Father? No other God, or part of God, is mentioned in the Old Testament. Who was it that raised Jesus from death? If Jehovah was Jesus then who is the God of Jehovah/Jesus that is speaking in that verse...
  2. keithr

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    We've been over this before. As previously mentioned, you're misreading it and making incorrect assumptions. "The LORD" is "Yahweh", (or "Jehovah" if you prefer). God said, “You shall tell the children of Israel this, ‘Yahweh, the God of your fathers, ..., has sent me to you.’ This is my name...
  3. keithr

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    I'm sure that, like me, you have at some time been tempted and have resisted the temptation. That doesn't mean that you and I are God, so why does Jesus resisting temptation show that he was God? That is illogical. BTW, Satan correctly knew who Jesus was when he tempted him, Luke 4:3 (WEB)...
  4. keithr

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    What 'Lord' are you referring to? I hate neither our Father, Yahweh, nor our Lord Jesus. What 'eternal commandment' are you referring to? You're not making yourself very clear.
  5. keithr

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    Do you realise that hallelujah means "praise ye Yah", or as is used in other places in the Old Testament (e.g. Psalms 177:1), "praise ye Yahweh"? There is no trinity in Yahweh.
  6. keithr

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    Probably the denim jeans. ;)
  7. keithr

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    I believe that this passage in Proverbs 8 (WEB) is referring to Jesus: 22) “Yahweh possessed me in the beginning of his work, before his deeds of old. 23) I was set up from everlasting, from the beginning, before the earth existed. 24) When there were no depths, I was born, when there were...
  8. keithr

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    1 Peter 3:15 (WEB): But sanctify the Lord God in your hearts; and always be ready to give an answer to everyone who asks you a reason concerning the hope that is in you, with humility and fear: So is that how you defend your faith and hope, not by giving an answer and explanation, with...
  9. keithr

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    That is not Jesus speaking and saying that he and his Father are one/united (echad)! Neither is this. That is what Yahweh commanded Moses to teach to the Israelites - Deuteronomy 6:1 (WEB): Now this is the commandment, the statutes, and the ordinances, which Yahweh your God commanded to teach...
  10. keithr

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    In his letter to Mary John also wrote (2 John 1:3): Grace, mercy, and peace will be with us, from God the Father, and from the Lord Jesus Christ, the Son of the Father, in truth and love. So John clearly didn't believe that Jesus was God. He, and the other apostles always talk of God and of...
  11. keithr

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    No. But God worked miracles of healing and raising people from death through prophets and the apostles and other Christians too - but that does not mean that they were not mere men and must have actually been God. Your logic is flawed. Consider Exodus 14:21 (WEB): Moses stretched out his...
  12. keithr

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    I don't deny how great Jesus is - he is our Lord and our head, our redeemer and saviour. But he is not God. The verses that you quote clearly distinguish between God and Jesus, and have God appointing His son as heir of all things, and God resurrecting Jesus from death. They also clearly...
  13. keithr

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    What about when he was a man? What about when he was a man? But your children are not you. You alone are the head of your family. Likewise Yahweh is the head of Jesus. Jesus is not equal to Yahweh, and Yahweh alone is God. Yes, Jesus has the same spirit being nature as God, just as your...
  14. keithr

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    As I understand it, believers in the Trinity believe that Jesus is God, and by referring to Jesus as being divine, or equally divine as his Father, they mean that they believe Jesus is part of God (God being made up of three persons in their belief), and that he has the same spirit being nature...
  15. keithr

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    "No one is able to snatch them out of my Father’s hand" implies that his Father is more powerful than all living beings. Therefore Jesus is not equal to his Father, as he said ("the Father is greater than I").
  16. keithr

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    John 10:29 (WEB): My Father, who has given them to me, is greater than all. No one is able to snatch them out of my Father’s hand. John 14:28 (WEB): ... If you loved me, you would have rejoiced, because I said ‘I am going to my Father;’ for the Father is greater than I.
  17. keithr

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    Obviously after. But he was writing about things that happened before his resurrection, way before! No, he writes "firstborn of all creation. For by him all things were created". (Or as the KJV puts it, "firstborn of every creature".) And, "firstborn from the dead; that in all things he...
  18. keithr

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    No, that's not quite correct. Yes, John 1:41 (WEB) says, “We have found the Messiah!” (which is, being interpreted, Christ). however, Messiah is the English transliteration of the Hebrew word mashiyac, which means 'anointed'. So Christ means 'anointed'. Jesus was anointed by God: Luke 4:18...
  19. keithr

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    Please prove that using verses from the Bible. No, Colossians 1:18 (three verses later), "He is the head of the body, the assembly, who is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead; that in all things he might have the preeminence", is refering to Jesus' resurrection. "Firstborn of all...