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  1. keithr

    Was Jesus a spirit being before coming to earth as a human?

    I have to disagree with that! Jesus is the substitute for Adam. By his death Jesus paid Adam's penalty for sin, meaning that Adam can now be raisied to life again (and all of Adam's decendants too, because they only died because they inherited an imperfect and sinful nature, the effects of...
  2. keithr

    Was Jesus a spirit being before coming to earth as a human?

    No, I'm saying that God was able to deduce that they would sin. He has allowed that to happen, and I would surmise that he allowed it for a good reason - perhaps because it's the best way for us to learn, by experience, of the effects of sin, and therefore to better equip us for an eternity of...
  3. keithr

    Was Jesus a spirit being before coming to earth as a human?

    Except that the verse says "before the foundation of the world". Here is another verse in harmony with Ephesians 1:4: 2 Timothy 1:8-9 (KJV): (8) Be not thou therefore ashamed of the testimony of our Lord, nor of me his prisoner: but be thou partaker of the afflictions of the gospel according...
  4. keithr

    Was Jesus a spirit being before coming to earth as a human?

    The following verses imply that God had foreseen the fall of man and planned our redemption before the earth was created. Ephesians 1:3-5 (WEB): (3) Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who has blessed us with every spiritual blessing in the heavenly places in Christ; (4)...
  5. keithr

    Was Jesus a spirit being before coming to earth as a human?

    Why do people keep getting that expression wrong? :confused: The expression is, "I could not care less" - the "not" is very important!
  6. keithr

    Was Jesus a spirit being before coming to earth as a human?

    These verses do imply that Jesus existed before his appearance on earth in human form: Colossians 1:16 (WEB): For by him all things were created, in the heavens and on the earth, things visible and things invisible, whether thrones or dominions or principalities or powers; all things have been...
  7. keithr

    Was Jesus a spirit being before coming to earth as a human?

    Yes, I may have misunderstood what you wrote. I thought you were implying, as others have, that God is outside of time, with time being a property of the physical universe that He created, and so He can see the past, present and future. I therefore assumed that you were implying that His son...
  8. keithr

    Was Jesus a spirit being before coming to earth as a human?

    Neither does it explain why Jesus answered the question "when will these things happen? What will be the sign of Your coming and of the end of the age?", by saying, "But no one knows of that day and hour, not even the angels of heaven, but my Father only" (Matthew 24:36). Nor why God had to...
  9. keithr

    Was Jesus a spirit being before coming to earth as a human?

    Yes, Jesus was a spiritual being before God changed him into human form. As I understand it, Jesus existed with God before the universe was created. The whole universe, and all physical life on earth, was created by Jesus as directed by God. Even all the heavenly spirit beings - angels...
  10. keithr

    Christians are not under the New Covenant

    I was going to ignore it! :) You asked "What, or who, is the house of Israel and the house of Judah?", and then answered your own question with "I think the answer is the king". My response was that I believe it is referring to all of the tribes of Israel - all of God's chosen people...
  11. keithr

    Christians are not under the New Covenant

    I believe it is referring to all the tribes of Israel. When Solomon died, between 926 and 922 BCE, the ten northern tribes refused to submit to his son, Rehoboam and revolted. From this point on, there were two kingdoms of Hebrews: in the north - Israel (ten tribes plus some Levites), and in...
  12. keithr

    Christians are not under the New Covenant

    As Psalms 50:5 says, Christians have "made a covenant with me [God] by sacrifice", i.e. we have been baptised (immersed) into Jesus' death (Romans 6:3) and therefore covenanted to sacrifice our human lives so that we may also share in Jesus' resurrection (Romans 6:5) to the divine nature (2...
  13. keithr

    Christians are not under the New Covenant

    How about Romans 11:25-32 (WEB): (25) For I don’t desire you to be ignorant, brothers, of this mystery, so that you won’t be wise in your own conceits, that a partial hardening has happened to Israel, until the fullness of the Gentiles has come in, (26) and so all Israel will be saved. Even...
  14. keithr

    Christians are not under the New Covenant

    We follow in Jesus' footsteps and likewise have to sacrifice our human lives. As I wrote in post #3: The whole merit of Jesus’ sacrifice was applied to the Church, so the Church must sacrifice their lives in order that the merit may be returned and then applied to the rest of mankind. This is...
  15. keithr

    Antichrist - Pope

    Okay, I've done a quick check. For the Catholic Record quote see The Catholic Record, Sept. 1, 1923. - about half way through the article the text is highlighted in bold: For Catholics it is not the slightest difficulty. "All power is given Me in heaven and on earth; as the Father sent Me so I...
  16. keithr

    Antichrist - Pope

    No. No, not yet. Have you? It's evidence in support of the author's claims about the Pope's supposing themselves to have authority to change God's laws, and evidence that the Papacy is what the prophecy in Daniel was pointing to: “And he shall speak great words against the most High, and...
  17. keithr

    Christians are not under the New Covenant

    And that new covenant is still yet to come into force (at the start of the Millennial Age). Clearly Jews/Israelites have not come under that covenant yet. That covenant says, "I will be to them a God, and they shall be to me a people", but Christians are to become the sons of God, part of His...
  18. keithr

    Antichrist - Pope

    Why don't you just read what I wrote? In the opening post I wrote, "I thought I'd share it here, as I find it very interesting". I'm just trying to help my brethren in Christ to better understand God's word in the Bible. I consider that more love than hate. I have been slowly reading the...
  19. keithr

    Christians are not under the New Covenant

    I thought I was quite clear. I had written, "Yes, Christians ... - but they are not under that new covenant". So I referring to all true Christians. I consider myself a Christian, and therefore not under the New Covenant - so, no (although you're not clear what you mean by "New Covenant...
  20. keithr

    Antichrist - Pope

    My take is that is is a punishment from God for not believing that God is our creator. People still teach today the theory of evolution as though it is the truth, even though it has been proved beyond all doubt to be a false theory - and homsexuality seems to be on the increase, and even...