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    The battle of Gog and Magog does not happen until after the thousand year reign of Christ

    Why would God graft Gentiles of faith into Israel in unbelief? Paul shows us that Gentiles of faith are grafted in with Israel of faith, and not of Israel in blindness. That is how the wall of separation is taken away. Now, in Christ we are ALL, whether Jew or Gentile of the same tree of...
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    The battle of Gog and Magog does not happen until after the thousand year reign of Christ

    Do you think His spirit of the living God returned to the Father without life? Every human spirit returns to God after our body breathes its last. Since the spirit returns to God after physical death, those having the Spirit of Christ within NEVER die, even though our physical body shall die...
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    The mark of the Man/beast

    John is shown a vision of heaven where faithful saints have ascended the spiritual body of Christ after physical death. Since in life Christ loved them and washed them from sins by His own blood, before they died Christ made them kings and priests unto God. That will not end when Christ comes...
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    The battle of Gog and Magog does not happen until after the thousand year reign of Christ

    Christ began to reign over the Kingdom given Him when He ascended to heaven after His resurrection. I agree the final gathering of Gog (antichrists) and Magog (antichristian) to make war against Christ and His saints shall not be until this time, symbolized a thousand years are finished. That...
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    The mark of the Man/beast

    Explain, if you can, how these passages support Christ returning to this earth to live and reign here for one thousand years? You do realize that both of these visions shown John are visions of/from heaven, and are NOT visions of things that come to pass on this earath?
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    The mark of the Man/beast

    It's YOUR truth we refuse to hear! Because YOUR truth regarding Rev 20 is NOT Biblical TRUTH! We know this because you cannot PROVE what you allege from the Word of God! So, when you point your finger toward others, remember you have three fingers pointing back at you!
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    The mark of the Man/beast

    Of course you follow the doctrine of men! You believe that when Christ returns, He will establish the Kingdom of God on this earth, and He will physically reign upon this earth for one thousand years! You've been repeatedly asked to PROVE this by showing from the Bible where this manmade...
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    I wonder what is meant by the comment also???
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    That's a problem for Premil! All you have is Rev 20, and even this chapter doesn't support Premillennialism without forcing contradictions into the Word of God. Contradictions and inconsistencies may be accepted by Premils, but serious students of the Word of God will not accept a doctrine...
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    There are 2 tribulation periods, the “first” is to the Jews

    I'll take this deflection to mean that you cannot biblically PROVE what you allege! He who alleges MUST prove! Either put up the verses to prove your doctrine or continue to do what you accuse others of doing! That is YOU resisting the truth! Unlike you, I won't go as so far to say YOU also...
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    There are 2 tribulation periods, the “first” is to the Jews

    It just gets really frustrating when one comes with what they believe to be true, but since they have not learned what they believe from the Bible, they are simply mimicking what they have been taught! It's become apparent that he would rather think himself right than learn the truth from...
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    There are 2 tribulation periods, the “first” is to the Jews

    I'll take this deflection to mean that you cannot biblically PROVE what you allege! He who alleges MUST prove! Either put up the verses to prove your doctrine or continue to do what you accuse others of doing! That is YOU resisting the truth! Unlike you, I won't go as so far to say YOU also...
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    There are 2 tribulation periods, the “first” is to the Jews

    If you really want to show me that I am following false doctrine, why can't you bring forth a single passage or verse from Scripture that tells us Christ will literally, physically reign on this earth for one thousand years when He comes again???
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    There are 2 tribulation periods, the “first” is to the Jews

    I agree. I too once embraced the doctrine of Premillennialism. But I only embraced what I HAD BEEN TAUGHT! It wasn't until I began to search the Bible and seek for myself, I wanted answers for inconsistencies and contradictions Premillennialism forced into the Word of God. That's when I...
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    There are 2 tribulation periods, the “first” is to the Jews

    Don't know where you get information about the Biblical doctrines espoused by Amillennialism??? Because Amil rightly understands what John means when he says "a/the thousand years." We (Amil) absolutely DENY a literal physical reign of Christ on this earth because it is NOT supported by the...
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    There are 2 tribulation periods, the “first” is to the Jews

    How is the Kingdom of God manifested in the world? Christ tells us His Kingdom is not NOW of this world, cannot be visibly seen, and that it is within you, and known and entered when man is born again of the Spirit. The Kingdom of God IN, NOT OF the world NOW is not physical, but a spiritual...
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    There are 2 tribulation periods, the “first” is to the Jews

    You speak against doctrine you have no understanding of! You've been shown the error of your doctrine cannot withstand scrutiny from the Word of God. Yet you continue to cling to that which has been proven to be biblical error??? I'm always surprised when premillennialists continue to spew...
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    There are 2 tribulation periods, the “first” is to the Jews

    Again, you appear to be using verses selectively out of context! Read the verse in context! It speaks of how those professing to be saints of Christ shall come under fiery trials that shall judge them in life. We are to consider the suffering in this life as being partakers of Christ's...
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    There are 2 tribulation periods, the “first” is to the Jews

    You are selectively using verses that show only the dead in Christ being raised on the last day. How do you reconcile the last day with the hour that is coming? John tells us when the dead, both those who have done good and those who have done evil are raised together. Do you deny the hour...
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    There are 2 tribulation periods, the “first” is to the Jews

    If you want us to understand your speech, prove what you allege through the Scriptures! What verses prove that Christ will come to reign on THIS earth? When the kingdoms of this world become the kingdoms of God it will be when all things have been made new. Why would Christ return to...