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    There are 2 tribulation periods, the “first” is to the Jews

    You gave an unproven opinion saying, "The last trump marks the end of the reign of the kings of the earth, not the end of time". I'm not inclined to believe one's opinions without verification from the Word of God. The world that was in the days of the flood that perished did not include the...
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    There are 2 tribulation periods, the “first” is to the Jews

    How do you reconcile the sounding of the seventh trumpet as the beginning of one thousand more years after Christ returns, with Rev 10:5-7 where we read "that there should be time no longer: but in the days of the voice of the seventh angel, when he shall begin to sound, the mystery of God...
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    When are the dead and living in Christ caught up to the Lord?

    This is what you consider a worthy answer??? Really not interested in your opinions!
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    When are the dead and living in Christ caught up to the Lord?

    Immortality and incorruptibility cannot be separated. When we are bodily resurrected if we've physically died, or raised up if still alive, to meet the Lord in the air, our physical body shall be changed from mortal to immortal and corruptible to incorruptible, fit for everlasting life on the...
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    When are the dead and living in Christ caught up to the Lord?

    The children of the resurrection Christ speak of, are those who have part in the first resurrection life through the resurrection of Christ. They are the only ones who never die again, because those having part in the first resurrection have overcome the second death (LOF). Those "children of...
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    When are the dead and living in Christ caught up to the Lord?

    The onus is on you! You're the one claiming they are immortal! If they were resurrected immortal (1) they would still be alive on earth today (2) Paul would not have written that faithful saints shall be changed from mortal to immortal and corruptible to incorruptible when the last trumpet...
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    When are the dead and living in Christ caught up to the Lord?

    NOT glorified bodies yet while a spiritual body of believers in heaven. Believers shall all become the glorified body of Christ TOGETHER, in the time that is coming when the last trumpet sounds and those who are dead resurrected to life, and believers alive at His coming caught up together with...
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    When are the dead and living in Christ caught up to the Lord?

    If we have no part in the resurrection life of Christ (who is the FIRST RESURRECTION) before we physically die, and we know that physical flesh and blood shall not inherit the Kingdom of God, how are the saints alive in heaven after physical death? It's true those who physically die in Christ...
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    When are the dead and living in Christ caught up to the Lord?

    You seem to miss the point! The reason I point out that Jerusalem on earth after the first advent of Christ is no longer considered the holy city of God is that you might KNOW the holy city in view is that which is spiritually found in heaven. It was the SPIRITUAL BODY, not the physical...
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    When are the dead and living in Christ caught up to the Lord?

    Not before the hour that is coming when the last trumpet sounds. As written, when our natural body dies, our body returns to the dust from which it came and our spirit returns to God who gave it. Ecclesiastes 3:20 (KJV) All go unto one place; all are of the dust, and all turn to dust again...
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    The Lord will fight for Israel and Jerusalem; Zech. 12

    Too bad, but I understand! Pride often keeps us from seeking for truth after the doctrine we've been deceived by is proven to be unbiblical doctrines of men! You have a nice day as well.
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    The Lord will fight for Israel and Jerusalem; Zech. 12

    You're inventing a narrative taken out of context! Revelation 5 is clearly a vision of things seen in heaven, not on this earth. The saints of heaven, who shall reign forever with the Lord on the new earth. According to Scripture when we become saved we are reigning spiritually with the Lord...
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    When are the dead and living in Christ caught up to the Lord?

    The Word of God recorded by the Apostle Paul disagrees with you! He very plainly tells us that none of the faithful dead, not even faithful saints still alive when Christ comes the second and only time, will be changed from mortal & corruptible body of death to immortal & incorruptible lives...
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    The Lord will fight for Israel and Jerusalem; Zech. 12

    When Christ came casting out many devils and demons from people demon possessed, He tells us this is proof the Kingdom of God has come. The disciples, like you did not understand how Christ came in the Kingdom of God since it was not a material/physical Kingdom. Luke 11:20 (KJV) But if I...
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    The Lord will fight for Israel and Jerusalem; Zech. 12

    Where in Scripture can you show that Christ will reign on THIS earth for a thousand years?
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    When are the dead and living in Christ caught up to the Lord?

    You're confusing being physically resurrected from death with immortal life. NONE shall be raised immortal & incorruptible until the seventh trumpet sounds. Paul says the resurrection to immortality shall be in a moment and twinkling of an eye. John writes it shall be in "the hour coming"...
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    There are 2 tribulation periods, the “first” is to the Jews

    I've not said the great tribulation faithful disciples suffer, in some cases unto death, is the same as the wrath of God. My purpose for replying is that FACT! Though the Bible speaks in terms of the Jews coming judgment, and as history proves that time of God's judgment came in 70 AD, the...
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    When are the dead and living in Christ caught up to the Lord?

    If that were true there would be no reason for us to here His Word and believe on the Lord Jesus Christ to be saved. The hour that NOW is began with the first century disciples of Christ hearing His Word before they physically died and believing. The same way any man who is dead in trespasses...
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    There are 2 tribulation periods, the “first” is to the Jews

    In this life mankind shall have tribulation, and for all who remain evil the wrath of God shall come upon them. That doesn't mean the disciples of Christ shall not experience "great tribulation" like none other as they faithfully proclaim the Gospel unto all the nations of the earth.
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    When are the dead and living in Christ caught up to the Lord?

    Christ NEVER promised a first century return. His promise was that He would come to them by sending His Spirit who would be within them, and never depart. It is in this manner that the promise of Christ was fulfilled "I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen." John 14:16-17...