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    There are 2 tribulation periods, the “first” is to the Jews

    Where does it say the blindness in part shall be removed? UNTIL does not mean the blindness in part shall be removed after the fulness of Gentiles comes in. It says only that the blindness in part shall remain until the END of time, because once the last Gentile to be saved comes in then the...
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    The reason given for the binding of Satan is "so that he should deceive the nations no more till the thousand years were finished." Would you NOT agree that since the cross of Christ the deception Satan held over the nations has been lifted? IOW Satan no longer has power to hold Gentiles of...
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    The Great White Throne Judgment Day happens after the seventh trumpet sounds that TIME shall be no longer. How can there be another one thousand years of TIME since time given this earth shall be finished when the seventh trumpet sounds? You are still waiting for the Day of the Lord to come...
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    But according to Peter's words these "last days" began at Pentecost, and proof of this is the outpouring of the Holy Spirit upon all who believe. We have been living in the latter days, or these last days from the first advent of Christ come to earth, and these last days shall end, not continue...
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    Joel's prophecy began to come to pass at Pentecost when the Spirit was poured out upon whosoever believes. That is all men without distinction, but not all men without exception, but all men who believe the Gospel. The signs Joel foretells shall still come to pass just as it is written, but...
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    I believe that in this passage Paul gives us assurance of life even after we physically die. Because the life we HAVE in Him is FOREVER. While alive in Christ on earth we are the physical body of spiritually alive believers. And we have this promise that when we are alive in Christ we shall...
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    You do know that God is Spirit, right?
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    C&Z the HUMAN named Jesus, that is His physical body, died and was buried, but to prove death CANNOT hold God He arose from the grave physically to prove His SPIRIT, which God is, NEVER died!
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    What's really sad is not realizing that if one does not believe Jesus IS God in the flesh, they are without a Savior! They are still dead in trespasses and sins, destined to die twice!
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    How can you deny the deity of Christ but still insist He is NOT God? How do you define the deity of God?
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    Okay, then it shall be after great tribulation Christ foretells would come as the Gospel is proclaimed unto all the nations of the world.
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    How do you define post tribulation?
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    I really don't care what you and others believe regarding tribulation of the saints and the time for being caught up to meet the Lord in the air (rapture). What I care about is what the Bible tells us about "great tribulation" being the lot in this life for the body of Christ, the Church with a...
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    When you understand that tribulation is the lot in life (this age) for believers, then you would understand why the Second coming of Christ can be any time! So that we might understand this Scripture has given things that shall come to pass before that DAY so we can be filled with faith, and...
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    Doug, Amils believe the Word of God shows great tribulation has been and is on-going since Christ ushered in His universal Church and shall continue until Christ comes again. Therefore, Amil indeed are post tribulation believers! We don't know, nor do we pretend to know when the Lord shall...
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    Apostate Israel is Babylon- common sense.

    You say you're looking for the Day of the Lord to come. Sadly, like the unbelieving Jews of Old, you are ignoring the FACT that the Day of the Lord has already come! It came when Christ came to earth a man. All that is written of Old concerning Him has been and is being fulfilled during this...
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    Apostate Israel is Babylon- common sense.

    Christ rules and reigns over His people! Those in unbelief are ruled and reigned over by the god of this world whom they serve! If I were inclined to guess, I would guess that you cannot see (understand) the Kingdom Christ is ruling and reigning over since His resurrection, and ascension to...
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    Apostate Israel is Babylon- common sense.

    I'm trying to show how you are forcing your doctrine into the text because you lack understanding. You think you have rightly divided the Word by taking verses out of context to promote your doctrine. You also fail to consider other passages from Scripture that do NOT support your doctrine...
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    Apostate Israel is Babylon- common sense.

    Why would Christ rule and reign over a world and unbelievers that is destined to destruction by fire? Christ is ruling and reigning over His people NOW from the Kingdom of God in heaven. When the final trumpet sounds that time given this earth has come to an end, then Christ with His saints...
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    I suppose you believe the time needed is about one thousand years? Yet Paul writes the resurrection from the graves shall be in a moment and twinkling of an eye. In the same manner when God spoke all things in heaven and earth being created in six days, so too shall all the saints, both the...