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    Apostate Israel is Babylon- common sense.

    You need to understand the difference between those in unbelief ruled and reigned over by the god of this world who has blinded their minds that they cannot believe the Gospel to be saved. Christ rules and reigns over HIS PEOPLE, whosoever follows Him. Those who remain of their father the...
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    Apostate Israel is Babylon- common sense.

    This shall come to pass when the seventh angel sounds the end of time for this world, and the fire of God's wrath shall be poured out upon all the earth when Christ comes again. You think of the Day of the Lord as one day in one thousand years to come! In doing this you look for everything...
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    Apostate Israel is Babylon- common sense.

    When Christ ascended to heaven after His resurrection, "there was given him dominion, and glory, and a kingdom, that all people, nations, and languages, should serve him: his dominion is an everlasting dominion, which shall not pass away, and his kingdom that which shall not be destroyed." (Dan...
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    Do you deny that God's will has been and is being fulfilled from the beginning? How is the Kingdom of God being built and shall be complete if His will is not being done on earth?
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    Apostate Israel is Babylon- common sense.

    What verses or passages of Scripture say the Lord's reign does not begin until after the seventh trump sounds?
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    Apostate Israel is Babylon- common sense.

    This is NOT an answer to my question, so let me ask you again. Can you show Scripture to prove Zechariah 14 speak of things that come to pass after Christ's second coming?
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    I agree! The Day of the Lord the Old Covenant prophets foretell should come is not a single Day but is an age/time/era. Do you deny this age/time/era the Old Covenant prophets foretell shall have a final/last/end day the New Testament also writes as the Day of the Lord?
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    It will be a day that no one knows when the seventh/last trumpet sounds, and time shall be no longer!
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    Opinion without verification from Scripture is meaningless!
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    Perhaps you would be so good as to show which Scriptures disprove Amil?
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    Actually, as post trib Amil we believe the rapture shall come when the last trumpet sounds the Lord's Second coming! That does not anticipate a SPECIFIC day, but a day that none shall know which shall come when the last trumpet sounds that TIME shall be no longer. The problem you face is...
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    If by tag team you mean that Amils consistently use Scripture to prove biblical truth, then yes, I suppose Amils do indeed support biblical doctrine we bring to these discussions in opposition to doctrines of Premils.
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    Apostate Israel is Babylon- common sense.

    Can you show Scripture to prove Zechariah 14 speak of things that come to pass after Christ's second coming? The prophets foretell of things that shall come to pass when the Day of the Lord shall come. Zechariah, like all the prophecies of Old MUST all be fulfilled within the time that began...
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    That's the biblical view, as you've been repeatedly shown! Christ comes again when the last (seventh) trumpet shall sound that TIME shall be no longer (Rev 10:5-7). How does this FACT contradict no man knowing the day and hour?
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    Exactly! He ignores every rebuttal brought forth because he can't fit the rebuttals into his ridiculous charts!
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    Apostate Israel is Babylon- common sense.

    The Old Testament prophets wrote of the coming Day of the Lord when the promised Messiah would come to redeem His people. They do not prophesy of a second coming of Christ. They prophesy of what would come to pass AFTER His coming. The prophecies are rightly understood when we realize they...
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    Apostate Israel is Babylon- common sense.

    I agree. The Day of the Lord referenced in the New Testament points to the final Day (1) of the Lord that is coming. The NT writers need not refer to the coming Day of the Lord as time that began with Christ's first coming, because they and all who came after are witnesses of this truth. But...
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    Apostate Israel is Babylon- common sense.

    Yes, I agree the NT speaks of this time the Old Testament prophets foretell as the Day of the Lord when the promised Messiah would come AGAIN, and all that is written concerning Him would then be utterly fulfilled then. The NT references as "these last days" or "the last time" will be the final...
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    Apostate Israel is Babylon- common sense.

    Of course, the birth of Christ that ushered in the Day of the Lord the prophets foretell would NOT begin with darkness and gloom. The darkness and gloom the prophets foretell regarding the Day of the Lord will come at the end of the Day of the Lord, not at the beginning. The prophets foretell...
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    Apostate Israel is Babylon- common sense.

    Note when the Day of the Lord began. During these last days, the prophet Joel calls the Day of the Lord coming, even at hand there shall be not only darkness and gloominess, and a devouring fire, but during this Day of the Lord whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be delivered...