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  1. keithr

    Can the Soul Die?

    That eternal punishment is eternal death. The righteous will have "eternal life" - the unrighteous won't have eternal life. Romans 6:23 (WEB): For the wages of sin is death, but the free gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord. John 3:16 (WEB): For God so loved the world, that...
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    Matthew 28:19 – Trinity corrupted verse

    How do Trinity believers understand Romans 8:29 (WEB)?: For whom he foreknew, he also predestined to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brothers. Or, as the REB translates it: For those whom God knew before ever they were, he also ordained to share...
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    Matthew 28:19 – Trinity corrupted verse

    You've got your facts wrong. A 14th century Jew never claimed anything. He merely published a complete copy of the Hebrew Gospel of Matthew. In 1987 that was translated into English, and that reveals the original version of Mat. 28:19. Nobody was claiming anything, nor saying that the...
  4. keithr

    Matthew 28:19 – Trinity corrupted verse

    Also with respect, I don't see the connection. Mat. 24:14 doesn't say anything about teaching and baptising people, it just says that the good news about the Kingdom will be proclaimed in all nations as a witness to all the nations. I don't believe that Jesus would tell his disciples to "Go...
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    Matthew 28:19 – Trinity corrupted verse

    I'm not participating in this thread any more, but if you want to respond then see posts #419 and #420.
  6. keithr

    Why Fast?

    Well quoted. About 25 years ago I struggled to understand fasting, and nobody could explain it to me in a way that made any logical sense to me. Then one evening we had a small Bible study in my home, led by a pastor from the church that I eventually started attending. Afterwards, while...
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    Matthew 28:19 – Trinity corrupted verse

    I guess you forgot about this?
  8. keithr

    Matthew 28:19 – Trinity corrupted verse

    (Matthew 7:21-23) Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter into the Kingdom of Heaven; but he who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. Many will tell me in that day, ‘Lord, Lord, didn’t we prophesy in your name, in your name cast out demons, and in your name do many mighty...
  9. keithr

    Matthew 28:19 – Trinity corrupted verse

    You weren't reading carefully enough! I wrote that the Jews had preserved "a copy of the original", not that the original was obtained and preserved by them. I did read the introduction of the book. As it says, the twelfth version of Shem-Tob's work contained a copy of the entire Gospel of...
  10. keithr

    Matthew 28:19 – Trinity corrupted verse

    I never mentioned anything about the NWT or Jehovah’s Witnesses. You're jumping to conclusions without any evidence! (And no, I am not a JW.)
  11. keithr

    Matthew 28:19 – Trinity corrupted verse

    So you agree then that people noticed the falling away from the truth?! I said I didn't know who you were referring to by the "ECF". WDYUWIS? No, I quote some verses and explain what I think they mean. It's the verses that are the 'ultimate authority'; it is up to you to decide whether or...
  12. keithr

    Matthew 28:19 – Trinity corrupted verse

    I know that's what it says. I quoted the verses to you! Perhaps you should read again what I wrote?!
  13. keithr

    Matthew 28:19 – Trinity corrupted verse

    I didn't write that. It was Marymog.
  14. keithr

    Matthew 28:19 – Trinity corrupted verse

    Because it's a misleading translation (translated by Trinity believers who missed out 'a') and it is inconsistent with other verses of Scripture if it truly was "the Word was God". Because I believe Jesus, not what the Jews mistakenly thought. Because it's another poor translation (I covered...
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    Matthew 28:19 – Trinity corrupted verse

    It is Yahweh speaking. His redeemer could be refering to to Israel's redeemer (as the International Standard Version translates it - "the King of Israel and its Redeemer". Yahweh is both Israel's king and redeemer. Yahweh is saying in Isaiah 44:6 that He (Yahweh) is the only almighty God. He...
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    Matthew 28:19 – Trinity corrupted verse

    I am not an expert on Greek, but I have read in the past that there are no seperate words for he, she or it, that it is all the same word in Greek. The Online Bible Greek Lexicon describes ekeinos as meaning "he, she it, etc.", and says that in the KJV it is translated as "that 99, those 40...
  17. keithr

    Matthew 28:19 – Trinity corrupted verse

    It's not corrupted. The Greek word ecclesia can be translated as assembly or church. In the KJV it is translated as church 115 times and as assembly 3 times. Other translations also use 'assembly' in Matthew 18:17, e.g. Darby, Young's Literal Translation, Literal Standard Version, Hebrew...
  18. keithr

    Matthew 28:19 – Trinity corrupted verse

    (1Ti 3:15) which is the church of the living God, the pillar and ground of the truth. That clearly states that the church is the pillar and ground of the truth, not just a few select members of the church. I can point out verses of Scripture to you, but I can't make you believe them if you...
  19. keithr

    Matthew 28:19 – Trinity corrupted verse

    Not necessarily! While we may learn and understand more as we continue studying God's word, that doesn't mean that we all reach the same level of understanding. We may already understand more than that 95 year old, or we may not. Some start with wrong foundational truths and don't break free...
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    Matthew 28:19 – Trinity corrupted verse

    What makes you think that nobody noticed?! The Roman Catholic church persecuted a lot of Christians because their beliefs were different to what the Pope and bishops said they should be. You said they believed in the Trinity, which is contrary to the Bible, therefore I consider them to be...