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  1. keithr

    Matthew 28:19 – Trinity corrupted verse

    Except, as I mentioned when I started this thread, Matthew didn't include the words "baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit" in his Gospel - it was added later, corrupting the verse. A forgery!
  2. keithr

    Matthew 28:19 – Trinity corrupted verse

    (We seem to be covering every topic under the sun here!) It was God's (Yahweh's) creation, His design, His will and His command that it be created, and, as you quoted from John 1:3, He created it through Jesus, through the agency of His son. As it says in Colossians 1: 16) For by him were...
  3. keithr

    Matthew 28:19 – Trinity corrupted verse

    No, I don't understand how you can think that God's son is called Yahweh from the Old Testament. Reveal that to me if you can (from the Old Testament only). Is the Holy Spirit also called Yahweh? I'm not aware of the Holy Spirit having a name. If Jesus is Yahweh then that means the Trinity...
  4. keithr

    Matthew 28:19 – Trinity corrupted verse

    I perfectly understand that the Word [Jesus] existed and was with God [Yahweh] (John 1:1) "in the beginning [when] God created the heaven and the earth" (Genesis 1:1), according to the word of God (the Bible). Reference? I'm aware of Peter saying regarding Paul's letters, "There are some...
  5. keithr

    Matthew 28:19 – Trinity corrupted verse

    You what? :confused:
  6. keithr

    Matthew 28:19 – Trinity corrupted verse

    The Gospel of John is written in Greek, regardless of what language Jesus spoke. Jesus and the disciples are believed to have spoken Aramaic - Hebrew was only used for religious purposes.
  7. keithr

    Matthew 28:19 – Trinity corrupted verse

    I don't care how many people were unaminous in their beliefs, if their beliefs were an apostasy, a falling away from the truth that Jesus and the Apostles taught. As Jude and Peter wrote: 1:3) I was constrained to write to you exhorting you to contend earnestly for the faith which was once...
  8. keithr

    Matthew 28:19 – Trinity corrupted verse

    'Echad' is a Hebrew word. The Greek word that's translated as 'one' in John 10:30 is 'heis' (hice), which means 'one', but doesn't mean 'more than one united'. It's the exact same word that Jesus/John uses in chapter 17 when Jesus prays for unity and love among Christians (IMO): 20) Not for...
  9. keithr

    Matthew 28:19 – Trinity corrupted verse

    God guides us to the truth throughout our lives; He doesn't reveal all of the truth to us instantly. We are all at different stages along that path, so it's not surprising that there is some disagreement among Christians. 1 Corinthians 13: 9) For we know in part, and we prophesy in part; 10)...
  10. keithr

    Matthew 28:19 – Trinity corrupted verse

    God is a spirit (John 4:24) and God's spirit coming upon or into people is God at work (or God's spirit at work, God's holy spirit). Ephesians 3:20) Now to him who is able to do exceedingly abundantly above all that we ask or think, according to the power that works in us, The Holy Spirit is...
  11. keithr

    Matthew 28:19 – Trinity corrupted verse

    Colossians 1:15 (WEB, MKJV, ASV, Darby, etc.): "who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of all creation". It looks like it's only a few modern translations like NIV, NLT and NKJV that translate it as "over all creation". Emmanuel means 'god with us' not 'Yahweh with us'. Jesus...
  12. keithr

    Matthew 28:19 – Trinity corrupted verse

    No, but it does show that the Scriptures were altered in an attempt to falsely insert support for the man-made doctrine of the Trinity. Irrelevant. The apostle Paul denied the Trinity: "But to us there is but one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we in him; and one Lord Jesus...
  13. keithr

    Matthew 28:19 – Trinity corrupted verse

    And yet the original subject of this thread was to show that the Trinity text was added centuries after Matthew wrote his Gospel. It originally did not contain the words "baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit".
  14. keithr

    Matthew 28:19 – Trinity corrupted verse

    You keep repeating those collection of words without any explanation of why you grouped them together and what they're supposed to mean. It's meaningless! To teach that there is only one almighty god, and that there is no other god, or being, that is His superior or His equal. A more proper...
  15. keithr

    Matthew 28:19 – Trinity corrupted verse

    That's a poor translation. The "Word was God" could (and should) be more accurately translated as "Word was a God", "a god was the Word", "Word was divine" or "what God was, the Word was". See John 1:1 - Wikipedia which mentions that an Eastern/Greek Orthodox Bible commentary notes: This...
  16. keithr

    Matthew 28:19 – Trinity corrupted verse

    Yes. But I still don't understand what your're saying by, or how you came up with:
  17. keithr

    Matthew 28:19 – Trinity corrupted verse

    Where do you get that from? And what does it mean or prove?
  18. keithr

    Matthew 28:19 – Trinity corrupted verse

    I believe I have been acting like the Bereans. I have spent many, many hours searching the Bible to see if the Trinity doctrine is correct, and I have concluded that it is not correct. Luke (in Acts 17) commends the Bereans for not just believing what others told them, but instead they checked...
  19. keithr

    Matthew 28:19 – Trinity corrupted verse

    I will continue to disbelieve the Trinity while nobody is able to reasonably and logically defend the man-made doctrine, and because there is so much evidence contrary to the Trinity doctrine in the Bible. Isaiah 1:18) “Come now, and let’s reason together,” says Yahweh: ...
  20. keithr

    Matthew 28:19 – Trinity corrupted verse

    As soon as men made it up the Trinity! There was opposition to it for a long time.