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It is. If I am wrong, I need to see it, otherwise, how will I understand? If it sounds sarcastic and unloving, forgive me, that is not my intent. If by wisdom I can be shown my mistake, then I can learn, but if all I am told is that 'I'm wrong', how will I learn? :) Fair request? Vengle, I...

Ahh.... Wisdom. :) All things are lawful, not all things edify. Thanks for sharing this Vengle, interesting stuff!

I mean it's in the realm of the Spirit. :) And God, as we know, is Spirit.

Hmmm... I would not say we learn to stand by our own merit. Rather I would say we learn to abide in Christ. We remain nothing but vessels, but what matters is what the vessel contains. If we are vessels of gold, refined in the fire, we can then be counted worthy of containing Christ. We must be...

Agreed, only I thought we were talking about those who follow God, not the nations. Now I'm confused again! :huh: :lol: My understanding of it is like this. In revelation it says there are two judgements, first the house of God, and then after a thousand years, the ressurection and judgment of...

If it was of any edification in the Lord, good! :) I am curious though... What do you believe? May God bless you!

I think I understand what you are saying, only I am confused on one point. If I understood right, the teaching you are talking about that happens in the millenium is doctrinal teaching (since this is what was disagreed on and where the comment came) :huh: I would say it's about life. The Lord...

Heaven isn't figurative, but it is spiritual! It is not that these things will not truly come to pass, but many things are said with a spiritual meaning, such as parables! :) The kingdom will be restored to Israel, but as we know, Israel is not just the Jews, but all who are in Christ Jesus...

Agreed. There is also always space for error on our part. :) To me, if a brother is willing to learn, humble, and of the same spirit, having brotherly love, I won't reject him by any means. I am very willing though, to go back and forth about understanding and wisdom I perceive to be important...

You mean it's not always easy? I agree. :)

I believe as you do brothers, that there is one group. But I am testing the waters. If a brother or sister simply believes that there are two groups, but in no way uses it to divide us and believes we must walk in brotherly communion and love, I have no issue... As long as the belief is not...

You nailed it right on, Buzzfruit! We don't get involved, this is not our home, and we promote another home. Very wise!

But doesn't it say we are grafted into Israel, and have the same inheritance? ;) But anyways, I really don't find this a big deal, we'll know in the end, all that matters is that we remain faithful servants. :)

To pledge allegiance means to promise loyalty. We obey the government as long as what it does is not against what God tells us to do, yes, but we do not pledge allegiance, because it will ask us to do something against the Lord's will, if we go far enough with our Lord. God tells us to love...

The issue then remains that we suscribe to a set of carnal beliefs, and say 'this is a good system, this is a bad system'. In this very doing, we eat of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, making ourselves judge over matters, rather than choosing life, Christ. The modern and abstract...

A righteous man falls seven times, and rises again. :) Until our character is shaped as Christ's, we will not be able to always walk in his power, which makes us as he is, as we carry him in us, and abide in him. I am human as you are... But we must always rise up and learn, that we might grow...

Works is to do a checklist, and say 'Done!' Men do this with works, saying, 'I have done this, and I have done that', but people also do the same with belief, 'I have believed, I have had faith'. The mistake is the same. We do nothing? We do not obey? 12 Fight the good fight of faith, lay...

Yes, for those who have experienced this, He HAS prepared us, He HAS given us His Spirit, He HAS freed us, now it is up to us to run the race! If indeed all those things have happened and we have no part to play, they why do we still sin? Why is the fight not over for us to conquer our souls...

Yes, ultimately just about every different view has something right... But as I once heard someone say, 'even a blind squirrel finds a nut every now and then'. I enjoyed your explanations of how the Old Covenant was a shadow of things to come, the New. It reminded me of a brother who was dear...

Then though, your pledge of allegiance is lip service, since it only tickles your fancy, right? I'm talking about your pledge to the flag, obviously. :) I'm asking because it just doesn't make sense to me, why pay lip service to a the flag, when our allegiance is actually with the Lord? Unless...