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  1. dad

    PAUL WROTE DO NOT LISTEN TO THE PRETRIB RAPTURE TEACHERS

    The verse mentions from the time that the daily sacrifice is taken away and the abomination set up. We have the woman fleeing after the abomination is seen. We have the witnesses doing their thing for a certain time. That time is 1260 days. The time when the extra time was mentioned was in...
  2. dad

    PAUL WROTE DO NOT LISTEN TO THE PRETRIB RAPTURE TEACHERS

    Why is that a point rather than fiction? Proof? We know how Jesus was killed. By the way which cross in Rev 10 are you referring to? Not in any way. That old guy in ancient history could not possibly have fulfilled anything to do with ending the transgression and bringing in everlasting...
  3. dad

    PAUL WROTE DO NOT LISTEN TO THE PRETRIB RAPTURE TEACHERS

    We were talking about trumpets. Be honest. Then from the daily sacrifice to the end would be 1290 days I guess. But since we have the timing a few ways from the time the woman flees and such, the 1260 days from then to the end is known. A known quantity in the equation. In the one verse...
  4. dad

    PAUL WROTE DO NOT LISTEN TO THE PRETRIB RAPTURE TEACHERS

    So all the other sets of seven are years but the last week is days? Says who? What if the Abomination took say, a month to set up? Do you think a trumpet blows all month long? The abomination is in the midst of the week.
  5. dad

    PAUL WROTE DO NOT LISTEN TO THE PRETRIB RAPTURE TEACHERS

    If Jesus entered Jerusalem and was killed AFTER that seems to do it.
  6. dad

    PAUL WROTE DO NOT LISTEN TO THE PRETRIB RAPTURE TEACHERS

    No He was not. That week is still to come. Jesus was cut off in the 69th week. Clearly. Yes it was and that is why the time was divided clearly into seven weeks, Daniel 9:25 Know therefore and understand, that from the going forth of the commandment to restore and to...
  7. dad

    PAUL WROTE DO NOT LISTEN TO THE PRETRIB RAPTURE TEACHERS

    Right it is not in the end time/last seven years that Jesus was killed. No the last seven years has not started yet and when it does in the middle of THAT seven years is when the abomination is set up. There is only one seven year week left after Jesus is cut off. That has not happened yet...
  8. dad

    PAUL WROTE DO NOT LISTEN TO THE PRETRIB RAPTURE TEACHERS

    The part after He dies and brings in everlasting righteousness is also there. He died, and that was in the first 69 weeks. Except you can't support that and probably don't even know which prince is what.
  9. dad

    PAUL WROTE DO NOT LISTEN TO THE PRETRIB RAPTURE TEACHERS

    OK, that was clear. The last half of the seven years is not part of the seven years whatsoever. Fine. Insults aside, no, the bible tells us it is after we see the abomination of desolation spoken of by Daniel the prophet. Apparently many people cannot hear what Dan said. You thought the...
  10. dad

    PAUL WROTE DO NOT LISTEN TO THE PRETRIB RAPTURE TEACHERS

    Who said it was? Seven years takes, well, seven years to be over. It is not free of death in the 1000 year reign, people can still die as I already provided scripture for. What did you think the nations we rule over in the millennium were composed of, zombies? Bingo. At least not a planet...
  11. dad

    PAUL WROTE DO NOT LISTEN TO THE PRETRIB RAPTURE TEACHERS

    Nice story. Proof? No no else eh? just ol Jacob. Interesting. Verse? Let;s look at a trumpet and see if Jacob is given an honorable mentch. Revelation 8:13 And I beheld, and heard an angel flying through the midst of heaven, saying with a loud voice, Woe, woe, woe, to the...
  12. dad

    PAUL WROTE DO NOT LISTEN TO THE PRETRIB RAPTURE TEACHERS

    I see. No nations full of people to rule over then? Yes, there is armies gathered. Some of...who? The army? No. The rest of the planet? Well quite a bit of people remain. Nations. Right, from countries all over the world some people come to fight. That does not mean all people on earth go...
  13. dad

    PAUL WROTE DO NOT LISTEN TO THE PRETRIB RAPTURE TEACHERS

    Looking at your quote I did not see "sixth seal" anywhere. Why bring it up? The tribulation does end as soon as Jesus returns to the earth. So....?
  14. dad

    PAUL WROTE DO NOT LISTEN TO THE PRETRIB RAPTURE TEACHERS

    No He has come to make it possible for them to accept Jesus. The turn from ungodliness thingie only comes after they are saved. He did all He could. The rest is up to them. Meanwhile they remain in unbelief and sin. They will remain that way until they accept Jesus in the end. Why make stuff...
  15. dad

    PAUL WROTE DO NOT LISTEN TO THE PRETRIB RAPTURE TEACHERS

    Did you think all people on planet earth went to that particular battle??? Seriously?
  16. dad

    PAUL WROTE DO NOT LISTEN TO THE PRETRIB RAPTURE TEACHERS

    Easy. It starts I think when we are raised in the air to meet Him. There are many events after this. The start is sudden. The duration is not mentioned. When people are stuck in that last period there is no escaping. Only getting saved of course. How or how fast it comes does not address how...
  17. dad

    PAUL WROTE DO NOT LISTEN TO THE PRETRIB RAPTURE TEACHERS

    I actually never even mentioned that seal except to try and address it because you brought it up. As for me saying everything is over then, please try to be honest.
  18. dad

    PAUL WROTE DO NOT LISTEN TO THE PRETRIB RAPTURE TEACHERS

    No. Israel and the Jewish people are ungodly today. Notice? Jesus came the first time and made a way. They have not yet taken it and accepted Him yet though so are still ungodly as the day is long. His return to earth is the time when all Israel gets saved. The Jews of the time were heirs as...
  19. dad

    PAUL WROTE DO NOT LISTEN TO THE PRETRIB RAPTURE TEACHERS

    Lots of things happen in that time. The stuff that happens at the end of the 1000 years included. None of that means it all happens over afternoon tea the hour Jesus steps down on earth. I did not post or refer to one passage, but to an event in that day of the Lord. So obviously I did not do...