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Did you see the "shall be"? That does not mean 'already have been' They will in the end. Both in the time of the captivity which the first verse you cite seems to refer to as well as in the tribulation in the end, only a remnant will be saved. The tenth part in not applicable to the...

Have you a reason for calling this false?? Romans 11:26 And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob: Isaiah 11:11-12 Then it will happen on that day that the Lord Will again recover the second...

Add the whole world to that and make if after Jesus returns to earth and you are close. All that good stuff will He and we do when we return to earth. Which will be from heaven and immediately after the tribulation. Simple. He sure will after they repent and all get saved at the end of the...

Of course he was. Why, what have you misinterpreted and misconstrued and gotten confused about this time?

What confused balderdash.

If you did I guess it wasn't very memorable, but thanks I guess. Don't blame us if you condense events or confuse orders and prophesies or whatever. Seems clear as a bell to me. But if you are the guy that admitted believing Jesus does not return to earth till after He has already ruled it 1000...

The author you quoted was not an apostle or even interesting or accurate. Not even close to 'apostles doctrine'.

Ok, so do you talk back? Tell us clearly what you have to say. If you read other posts here you might notice I am dealing with several people that are dyed in the wool yoyoists. You need to stand out by posting a distinct position. Ok, done "Amillennialism holds that while Christ's reign during...

Calls what that? It looks to me like that is about the tribulation period also called the time of Jacob's trouble. So...what about it? I see. I think of Israel as Israel. Even though believers are the true Israel because they love God, I think that the last seven year period focuses largely on...

Easy thing to do. Everlasting righteousness will come only after He returns. It did not come for all the world at His first coming. The end to transgressions on earth also will be when He returns! Of course we are already saved ourselves and have that inside. That is not true for all the planet...

His old body was different if you notice after Hr arose from the dead, just as we will be changed. The old body is part of it but we are changed! Irrelevant! God keeps the books and knows where to find enough of us to raise us up. It reminds me of an old movie called Starman. (starting...

Yes. I sure do. When you squeeze major events into one micro second event that is an apt description. State whatever you like as long as you continue to conflate and compress for the yo yo theory actions speak louder than statements. I think you said that the return to earth by Jesus (forget...

No. The church has no time in the tribulation period. You are conflating general trials and tribulations with the specific short period in the end. No actually. It is over by then and they are all saved. Their troubles end when He returns. So does the Great Tribulation. After that it is peace...

Not sure what you are talking about. Probably the term Rapture as opposed to the time the wicked are judged after the 1000 years. If you want to be vague, fine

I see what you are saying. However the gathering in the air is one event with more than one component. In the bible we read how that event includes the dead in Christ rising first. The Rapture affects all believers in Christ. Dead and alive. Nothing confusing at all about it. We both have our...

That's what I said. "His dead body was raised as the dead bodies of believers at the Rapture will be raised" The dead believers rise first. However you phrase your statement in a way that sounds like you think people are raised before the Rapture itself?

Right, but the point was that our bodies are important because they are involved in the new body. Jesus was the first to have one. His dead body was raised as the dead bodies of believers at the Rapture will be raised. OK so if He instantly arrives on earth from heaven where does a Rapture of...

The yo yo folks think that the gathering together in the air happens and then they immediately go down again. Yo yo is very appropriate. Calling those who question that childish is false. Not clearly. Articulate or vacate. More blah blah whining rather than clearly posting this supposed...

In what way, and what do you not understand that needs explaining? Why make Jacob sheep and goats? What not say he is cheese and crackers? Tom and Jerry? What verse says Jacob was a goat? In what way does calling the guy a goat make the tribulation his time of trouble? You are making no sense...

False. He NEVER comes to earth till the return to earth. Not in the Rapture. He is up still. We go up in the Rapture, and down aganin years later when Jesus returns. That gives us time to get to know Him and others and for the marriage supper and rewards etc. We NEVER retrun to eart permanently...