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  1. dad

    PAUL WROTE DO NOT LISTEN TO THE PRETRIB RAPTURE TEACHERS

    They all knew nothing of the sort
  2. dad

    PAUL WROTE DO NOT LISTEN TO THE PRETRIB RAPTURE TEACHERS

    Off topic spam. Why not surprise us and address the issues and post verses that fit at least a little bit?
  3. dad

    PAUL WROTE DO NOT LISTEN TO THE PRETRIB RAPTURE TEACHERS

    So what is it you think the spirit said regarding the topic?
  4. dad

    PAUL WROTE DO NOT LISTEN TO THE PRETRIB RAPTURE TEACHERS

    Otherwise known as the pee wee yo yo theory. Or the great clumping together or prophetic events! Great, at least you seem to believe in the millennium. I pity the people that think that. He is obviously a clumper. A yoyoist! If I had no convictions I might do the same. Anything goes. I don't...
  5. dad

    PAUL WROTE DO NOT LISTEN TO THE PRETRIB RAPTURE TEACHERS

    I agree since the only Scripture posted with 'second time' in it was talking about the rapture! You can call it a tomato if you like. The problem is we are not talking about the same thing. You are talking about some micro second event that encompasses the marriage supper, the Rapture and the...
  6. dad

    PAUL WROTE DO NOT LISTEN TO THE PRETRIB RAPTURE TEACHERS

    I could give you plenty but you would just crunch them all together in a ball without understanding them. Looks like you are stuck to your yo yo theory. Cheers.
  7. dad

    PAUL WROTE DO NOT LISTEN TO THE PRETRIB RAPTURE TEACHERS

    What is to ignore? Do you not lump the marriage supper and Rapture and return of Jesus to the earth into one event?? If so, that warrants exposure. No one questions that. What are you talking about? The problem is you take three events and stuff them into that same instant! Be honest. Do you...
  8. dad

    PAUL WROTE DO NOT LISTEN TO THE PRETRIB RAPTURE TEACHERS

    Thanks for admitting that. I guess we can toss in the great marriage supper of the Lamb with that for the trifecta! Then we can wave away the millennium as false as many who preach the yo yo theory also do! How about you, do you believe there is a real 1000 year reign by us after we return to...
  9. dad

    PAUL WROTE DO NOT LISTEN TO THE PRETRIB RAPTURE TEACHERS

    The ones that do you reject because of your yo yo theory. The only problem is that you can what is what and what speaks of what. Don't blame me. You should not reject authoritative scripture using discombobulated random thoughts and verses as if they gave you some sort of authority. You have no...
  10. dad

    PAUL WROTE DO NOT LISTEN TO THE PRETRIB RAPTURE TEACHERS

    The argument was that the only time second time is used that anyone posted here so far the context is the Rapture! Funny you find that insulting. I find the yo yo theory insulting to the intelligence as well as to the spirit and written word of God. This is news? The issue is that some conflate...
  11. dad

    PAUL WROTE DO NOT LISTEN TO THE PRETRIB RAPTURE TEACHERS

    There is no doubt He comes a second time. The issue is that you conflate that event where He comes for us with the event where He comes all the way to earth with us! Except your yo yo theory is laughable and absolutely unsupportable by Scripture. How so? He did. You just can't understand...
  12. dad

    PAUL WROTE DO NOT LISTEN TO THE PRETRIB RAPTURE TEACHERS

    As posted in my previous post, that is about the gathering in the air. So if you want to call the Rapture the second coming, fine. I don't because not all will see Him then, just the believers. When He returns to earth with us, every eye will see Him. That one is about His return to earth when...
  13. dad

    PAUL WROTE DO NOT LISTEN TO THE PRETRIB RAPTURE TEACHERS

    The other verses you listed do not say a second coming. In the verse in Hebrews it says this It is actually Heb 9 not chapter 8 and verse 27 is about Paul. Hebrews 9:28 So Christ was once offered to bear the sins of many; and unto them that look for him shall he appear the second time...
  14. dad

    PAUL WROTE DO NOT LISTEN TO THE PRETRIB RAPTURE TEACHERS

    Couldn't resist this one. So the precise time given in the book covering the end time and that has a special blessing on those who read it (Revelation) are total coincidence?! The times that are the same in Dan 'reeealllly' mean thousands of years!? What a contortion.
  15. dad

    PAUL WROTE DO NOT LISTEN TO THE PRETRIB RAPTURE TEACHERS

    Except the actual time Jesus spoke of will not be like any other time at all.
  16. dad

    PAUL WROTE DO NOT LISTEN TO THE PRETRIB RAPTURE TEACHERS

    Nevertheless it is in heaven. From heaven that then opens, Jesus and us return to earth. Except once again you made that up whole of cloth. We go to be where He is, in the Father's house which is what we call heaven. From heaven Jesus comes down to earth as do we with Him Says who? What part...
  17. dad

    PAUL WROTE DO NOT LISTEN TO THE PRETRIB RAPTURE TEACHERS

    So you think the Rapture is the marriage supper? Funny. What else would we expect from a conflationist I guess. Having fun making stuff up? Nowhere does it say the marriage supper of the Lamb lasts one second! So the scene is heaven, BEFORE heaven is opened and Jesus returns to earth is...on...
  18. dad

    PAUL WROTE DO NOT LISTEN TO THE PRETRIB RAPTURE TEACHERS

    No problem, we can call the Rapture the second coming and the return to earth of Jesus the third coming? Either that or show us some verse that mentions second coming? Right, He comes in the air, raises us up to be with Him. WE are caught up as opposed to the return of Christ to the earth when...
  19. dad

    PAUL WROTE DO NOT LISTEN TO THE PRETRIB RAPTURE TEACHERS

    I guess you missed the point. No one needs some drawn out spiel about what you think The Rapture is or represents yada yada yada It is a matter of believe it or not. If that is your actual opinion of what it means to be with Jesus forever, don't project. we go upp in the air to meet Him and be...
  20. dad

    PAUL WROTE DO NOT LISTEN TO THE PRETRIB RAPTURE TEACHERS

    No one asked you for a thesis of opinion on what you think the Rapture is. Why not just believe that Jesus raises up believers to be like and with Him in the air forever as it says?