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I see. So what verse says Jesus lands, and then takes off again for a short wedding before having us and Him come right back down to earth again? Ha Yet there is a real marriage supper and a bride. Right. So you have a problem with that? Which is when we go up in the air. Otherwise called the...

Except you made that up, nowhere does it say that the scene in heaven where Jesus came from to go to earth and the marriage supper was going on, was 'after' He landed on earth! How dare you accuse others of being unbiblical when you make things up whole of cloth.

That verse says nothing about the marriage of the Lamb. Looks like you aere really scraping the bottom of the barrel for random spam verses. Jude actiually points out the saints come with Him. Sorry that is news to you. Angels also! You have a lobotomized, myopic view based on a part of the...

So a wedding in the clouds after He returns to earth and then takes us up to the clouds -only to have us all go back down to earth within minutes? That sounds like a fly by night theory. That doesn't fit. He is coming in vengeance to destroy the wicked and He is coming WITH His saints!

Revelation 19:1 And after these things I heard a great voice of much people in heaven .. Revelation 19:7 Let us be glad and rejoice, and give honour to him: for the marriage of the Lamb is come, and his wife hath made herself ready How would that work in the yo yo theory? Jesus...

The collection may not be what you thought. Not if you realize what is what and that there is a Bride Rescue Operation before the trouble begins. The people who get saved during the Tribulation period were probably for the most part already alive at the Rapture. Yet they never chose or had the...

I understand. I would be insulted also if I had a theory that had Jesus getting His Bride after the marriage! Then zipping down to raise her up a few feet, then immediatly plop down to earth. Truly ridiculous.

As He will. Yoou thought there was only one trumpet in history or the end?? Ha No. Both events have trumpet sounds. There are even seven trumpet judgments! Well there are angels in many places in that period. Saying the word angel does not help your little yo yo theory. Misposting to be more...

There was a shadow of the final leader given in the bible. Of course he woulld to some degree have traits. Otherwise why would God use him as a small example of things to come? The verse you cite, Dan 11:36 is smack dab in the middle of a prophesy about the final world leader. Sorry you were...

Confused accuser of the saints. Run along if you can't make a cohesive case for your confused prophesy conflation attempts.

What is post trib about a loud sound? Gabriel was here in Daniels day. How is it that you seem to think an archangel could only appear once in the end time? How would Jesus speaking and raising and recusing His Own Bride from a coming terror war be post trib? You don't get to declare something...

The big mouth Antichrist, that man of sin, the beast is well known for speaking. It is a trait of his. It nails who it is. He was not here in the first century. The old yo yo theory. Ridiculous. But thanks for admitting it! Rev 19 has the marriage supper announced in heaven from the throne no...

Try not to be a sore loser. It is obvious your position was indefensible. Come on over to the winning side. The water is fine here.

Oh really? Guess that settles it then What else would you call it when not only our spirits but bodies are saved and raised up? So we are raised before the coming period of wrath. Thanks for that. What sort of blessed hope would it be for the Bride of Christ to go through the hellish Great...

Except the one up in the air cannot be the one on the earth. Neither for Him nor us. You do not get to wave one away. Holy people exist after the Rapture.

Neither were 3 1/2 years before Jesus returned to earth. Except the time we go up in the air cannot be the same time we return from the air. Thes 4? You don't mean 1 Thes 4? If so, perhaps you did a typo? (as obviously that is about Him coming to get us) Looking at Dan 8 we see this...

Not even close. Total pet doctrine that is unsupportable.

Yet where is a verse that says 'second coming'? Let's see it if you didn't make it up. Then we can look at that. Unless in the air is the same as not in the air at all, you have no point whatsoever. You conflate events and spam verses you cannot discuss or defend.

So you think the abomination of desolation was history. OK Dan 12:1 And at that time shall Michael stand up, the great prince which standeth for the children of thy people: and there shall be a time of trouble, such as never was since there was a nation even to that same time: and at that time...

Says who? The second coming return to earth is one event. The coming to gather the dead and living believers to be with Him is another event. There is no fusing the two. Those who try to weld them together inside their heads have a confused blob of misunderstanding and jumbled screws loose there...