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  1. GracePeace

    OSAS : Gnostic Heresy

    Hebrews 3 14For we have become partakers of Christ, if we hold fast the beginning of our assurance firm until the end, We have become partakers of Christ only if we hold fast until the end--otherwise, that history of our having partaken of Christ, our "righteousness of faith", is "forgotten"...
  2. GracePeace

    OSAS : Gnostic Heresy

    This parable doesn't help your position : the Lord had lent the servant a talent of his own money, expecting an in-kind harvest, and, because the servant did not act in faith, but was "wicked", what had been deposited to him (a measure of faith) was stripped from him, so that he never had faith...
  3. GracePeace

    OSAS : Gnostic Heresy

    Oh, really? Any text you read to come to any conclusion you make is being misread, then. What part of what I have said is a misunderstanding? Prove I have misunderstood.
  4. GracePeace

    OSAS : Gnostic Heresy

    You, to preserve your view (instead of rethinking your view around the parable), tried denying forgiveness had taken place before being rescinded, in the parable we've been discussing. Is that what we should learn is how you show respect for God's Word?
  5. GracePeace

    OSAS : Gnostic Heresy

    Nah. Again, as if you need to be told, parables teach spiritual truths using earthly imagery : the "debt" refers to what we owe God on account of our sins, and Jesus says "so will My Father do to you if you do not forgive your brother from the heart", so it has practical application to our...
  6. GracePeace

    OSAS : Gnostic Heresy

    Jeremiah 18 5Then the word of the LORD came to me, saying, 6“Am I not able, house of Israel, to deal with you as this potter does?” declares the LORD. “Behold, like the clay in the potter’s hand, so are you in My hand, house of Israel. 7At one moment I might speak concerning a nation or...
  7. GracePeace

    OSAS : Gnostic Heresy

    No, if God sets contingencies, "If you do A, I will do B, but if you do C, then I will do D," that isn't Him "changing His mind", that's Him laying out contingencies. If afterward He did not honor His Word (not possible) about those scenarios, then you could complain He was "changing His mind".
  8. GracePeace

    OSAS : Gnostic Heresy

    Lol he's actually argued "I don't need to abide to be saved, only to bear fruit"--meaning he regards being thrown into fire (for not bearing fruit) as a "saved" condition! You couldn't make the stuff they believe up.
  9. GracePeace

    OSAS : Gnostic Heresy

    You're free to make your own thread where you decide the topic, but, no, that's not the question.
  10. GracePeace

    OSAS : Gnostic Heresy

    Obviously, your view doesn't pass the scratch test. It's more believable, for all the reasons I've enumerated, that the parable is the genuine article, not a lie that has no actual reality it corresponds to. No, I'm saying that is the conclusion from what YOU were saying, and I'm rejecting...
  11. GracePeace

    OSAS : Gnostic Heresy

    The text is unambiguous. "I forgave you". What makes it difficult for you is not mysterious--you have theological pre-commitments. If your views are challenged by what is plainly stated, is that my fault? It's a story, and Jesus tells us what it means, so we don't have to guess : "So will My...
  12. GracePeace

    OSAS : Gnostic Heresy

    Begging the question
  13. GracePeace

    OSAS : Gnostic Heresy

    Are you saying the Holy Spirit is insufficient to lead and empower a person to do God's will, and they need the written lies of Jesus to scare them into doing God's will? New creatures, born of God, need to be scared into obedience? I thought you believed otherwise. How many Christians...
  14. GracePeace

    OSAS : Gnostic Heresy

    Which parables have no correspondences with reality?
  15. GracePeace

    OSAS : Gnostic Heresy

    The parables Jesus teaches have elements corresponding to reality. Agreed? The King, Jesus says, corresponds to God. The King forgiving the servant, Jesus says, corresponds to God forgiving a disciple of His. The King rescinding His forgiveness because the servant did not forgive, Jesus says...
  16. GracePeace

    Filthy Rags versus Fine Linen Bright and Clean

    Yup. Beside the point of the OP, but yup.
  17. GracePeace

    Filthy Rags versus Fine Linen Bright and Clean

    The point was it is an error to call Christian works "filthy rags" when they're actually "fine linen bright and clean" because they're not our own righteousness but God's revealed from faith to faith.
  18. GracePeace

    OSAS : Gnostic Heresy

    Do you really need to have it explained to you that Jesus tells parables to teach lessons about reality? You're saying there is no reality to which this parable corresponds, but, again, this would be a complete severance from Jesus's habit, so I and all other reasonable people reject the notion.
  19. GracePeace

    OSAS : Gnostic Heresy

    Even though the King, representing God, in the parable, says "I forgave you all that debt". Past-tense. Forgave. Not sure why you're pretending not to understand my point : God didn't turn a forgiven person over to tormentors, God RESCINDED His forgiveness, so the guy was no longer forgiven. Do...
  20. GracePeace

    OSAS : Gnostic Heresy

    What are some other examples of Jesus teaching parables that don't need to be taught, that He teaches in vain, because the lesson doesn't need to be learned, because the lesson He is teaching in the parable can never occur, and where He depicts God as doing something that He will never do? Is...