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If you want to argue - I'll argue. It makes for great message board entertainment to watch two people tear each other into pieces... Now you said this was the definition of create. That's VERY basic. Here is how Websters' New International Dictionary - Second Edition 1957 (my best...

I must say, that I find this whole style of attack posting upon me and my eschatology, which you continually misrepresent, as another form of a fallacy in argument: Argumentum ad hominem (argument directed at the person): This is the error of attacking the character or motives of a person who...

Now you're equivocating on equivocating.

You're right. This argumentative style of ridicule seeking to destroy is ridiculous. I think you're living in a vacuum with only like-minded individuals. According to a 1987 reader survey of readers by Christianity Today Institute, Amillennial garnered 18%. Pre-Trib adherents (along the Left...

This is really getting rather low. Considering how wrong you portray my views, pot meet kettle.

So I'm a Historic Pre-Millennialist.

No, you've tried a couple of fallacies in argument and still I refuse to bend to your will. If you seek to prove that your conception of the truth is true, the only one you're going to convince is yourself; which brings up an adage: "Don't believe everything you think." I would desire a...

So Irenaeus does make a lot of the connections I make and he speaks of a literal Temple, a Temple that was not there in his day.

CHAPTER 25 -- THE FRAUD, PRIDE, AND TYRANNICAL KINGDOM OF ANTICHRIST, AS DESCRIBED BY DANIEL AND PAUL. 1. And not only by the particulars already mentioned, but also by means of the events which shall occur in the time of Antichrist is it shown that he, being an apostate and a robber, is...

And that is not true. That is why we have historic pre-millennialist and scholars like the ones at Bible.org call it Augustinian Amillennialism. Eschatology is not doctrine, unless you want us to put on your strait jacket and not think for ourselves. Nonsense. I've been reading some of...

To say that a river that has its origins in the mountains on its run to the sea was created by the snow melt is to ignore all the other sources which flow into it to make it the river it is when it empties fresh water into salt water. I think you know what I mean, and I think you're "punking"...

Its origins. Augustine's world view lead to the formation of Amillennialism; he did not create a complete eschatology as you espouse it. That took time and many authors. But they follow his lead. Sorry fifth book. His chapters as labeled are hardly explicit in spelling out a distinct...

No, that is incorrect. I said it has its origins with Augustine. I did not say he created it. There is a difference: words mean things. His writings influenced the Roman Catholic Church for centuries, and has led to its Amillennial stance, which it has fully developed into a complete...

Oh really? Or in my Irish Latin: O'Reillius? One: It's not the last five chapters of his papers, but the fifth of five chapters. Two: His writing, which we don't have all, is very limited and it's not about eschatology, but as the title of his papers says, it is against heresy, of which there...

From my Pre-Wrath, sequence-of-events study using a literal hermeneutic, I'd say: not yet. But as none of us knows when we will "check out" individually, it's best to live this day like it's your last.

To say that Origen was representative of eschatological thought before Augustine is not a valid point at all. He broke with what was then an established literal hermeneutic. I really don't like when someone wants to speak for the earliest Church leaders because one, there are not that many of...

He already answered it. Expositor's Bible Commentary - Gal 6:16 There are two ways in which the "and" (καί, G2779,, kai) of this verse may be taken. It may be a simple connective, in which case Paul's final words would be directed to all who among the Gentiles walk according to the truth of...

In this argument, you were the one to raise the charge of dangerous first. So any remonstrate call to study, redounds to you as well. I only responded in kind from the opposing view (that you attempted to excoriate as unfitting to even hold for any Christian) to show that no one view is "safe"...

I'm sorry, but eating human flesh and drinking human blood is a sin. Jesus did not sin. If what you say actually happened, then you're saying Jesus did sin. Jesus was without sin; your interpretation is in error. Nor would the eleven Jews who participated in the Last Supper willing do such a...

I don't do that, so I must not be a dispensationalist... The point is, is to watch. Knowing that our political leaders have all made love to the whore of Babylon (Rev 17:2) - while we are to pray for them, David, a man after God's own heart, prayed in many ways... Let his days be few; Let...