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  1. Marcus O'Reillius

    Who Is "the Restrainer" In 2 Thess. 2:6-7

    Don't put words in peoples' mouths. Paul didn't talk about eschatology because it confused people. He was dealing with people that did not have a good grasp of Scripture to begin with, and teaching them about the end-times was not what they needed. They needed the basics. They needed to be...
  2. Marcus O'Reillius

    Imminent.

    Rev 9:15 And the four angels, who had been prepared for the hour and day and month and year, were released, so that they would kill a third of mankind. That is a fact. Rev 9:16 The number of the armies of the horsemen was two hundred million; I heard the number of them. That is another fact...
  3. Marcus O'Reillius

    Who Is "the Restrainer" In 2 Thess. 2:6-7

    It really makes no sense to say that the Roman Empire, which destroyed the city and the sanctuary, and from whom the anti-Christ originates - who as the King of the North, would occupy Europe which lies in the northern half of the Northern Hemisphere - is restraining its leader! Rome is the...
  4. Marcus O'Reillius

    Imminent.

    Since the Churches being written to surpass the physical locales of the time, (indeed, the choice of cities have been likened to Church types over the last 2000 years) and since the message to the Churches is for all variations of Churches without regard for the time they live in during the...
  5. Marcus O'Reillius

    Imminent.

    While the abomination is not defined in either the books of Daniel or the Synoptic Gospels, Jesus revealed the nature of the abomination to John in Revelation as the talking image of the beast of a man, the King of the North, i.e., the anti-Christ. With that seminal moment, the apex of man of...
  6. Marcus O'Reillius

    Imminent.

    Sorry for the multiple edits, but I wrote the original a long time ago, and it needed both clarification and polish.
  7. Marcus O'Reillius

    Imminent.

    Distress and patient endurance are required of every generation. We each have our difficulties and tests of faith. As stressful as modern times can be, arguably in the past it was much worse. However, the Great Tribulation Jesus spoke of, is unique in time - DA 12:1 "At that time Michael...
  8. Marcus O'Reillius

    Imminent.

    Actually, it a presumption on your part to assume it must be something which makes sense to a first century reader. The fact that much of what is written in Revelation hasn't made sense to not only first century readers, but people through nearly twenty centuries thereafter. So why must its...
  9. Marcus O'Reillius

    Imminent.

    What we have here - is a failure to communicate. I don't know how to be more "clear" than saying that taking a literal approach doesn't mean I cannot adjust my interpretation to account for figurative speech. You then pepper me with silly questions which are not serious so as to portray a...
  10. Marcus O'Reillius

    Imminent.

    Any time someone says "it is clear", I know it is anything but clear - and what follows is just their conclusion. Now while I disagree with every point you make, and I'd counter with a completely different viewpoint, what I see here as a fundamental difference is our mode of interpretation of...
  11. Marcus O'Reillius

    Imminent.

    Let's see if we can get past Jack's opinions and get to any real statements of fact about me, a Premillennial, Pre-Wrath, progressive dispensationalist. "It's false and dangerous" - that's his opinion. "It is a dangerously false view because it is diversionary." - again, that's his opinion...
  12. Marcus O'Reillius

    Who Is "the Restrainer" In 2 Thess. 2:6-7

    1. LIAR. Gabriel does NOT say he was there to explain a vision which happened weeks or even months previously. Dan 9:22 - He came to give him insight and understanding in response to his prayers! 2. YOU say Jesus confirmed the Covenant with many for one 'week'. I had to drag it out of you...
  13. Marcus O'Reillius

    Who Is "the Restrainer" In 2 Thess. 2:6-7

    Back to conspiracy theories and other such kookiness... Everybody wants to say who it is. Whoever your unsourced allegation is, was not there either, and is just as much in the dark as you are, playing psychiatrist behind a keyboard. (Man up? Don't make me laugh.) Earth to phoneman: Rome...
  14. Marcus O'Reillius

    Who Is "the Restrainer" In 2 Thess. 2:6-7

    Not so with the parable of the five foolish virgins. Jesus starts with talking about ten virgins, and five are wise, and five are foolish. All the virgins are Christian: they are all waiting for the return of Jesus. Virgin here can relate figuratively to faith, rather than literally as to...
  15. Marcus O'Reillius

    Who Is "the Restrainer" In 2 Thess. 2:6-7

    Anyone can say who the one is; no one can prove it though. Pinning the tail on the donkey in this case is just as much idle speculation as those people who will tell you that they know who the anti-Christ is. The use of the neutral gender in one case goes against a person being the "one"...
  16. Marcus O'Reillius

    Who Is "the Restrainer" In 2 Thess. 2:6-7

    The one thing we can say, and prove logically, is that the "one" is NOT the Church or the Elect. That is because the "one" must be removed so the Man of Lawlessness can rise up, ...and only when he has been made known, does Jesus come, and we are gathered unto Him.
  17. Marcus O'Reillius

    Who Is "the Restrainer" In 2 Thess. 2:6-7

    I think we have to accept that the knowledge of whomever Paul told the Thessalonians the "one" "standing in the midst" was - has been forever lost in this life. God can use Spirits other than just the Holy Spirit: Read 1Ki 22. God has other Agents than just Michael too. So while anyone can...
  18. Marcus O'Reillius

    The mount of Olives already cleaved Has the Lord returned or not ?

    He has not returned - yet. I do count that Scripture you cite, as well as the accompanying Scripture from Acts "blessedhope" provided as an event which occurs on the Day of the Lord, and prior to the Rapture from the clouds when Jesus returns from resurrecting the Dead in Christ.
  19. Marcus O'Reillius

    Who Is "the Restrainer" In 2 Thess. 2:6-7

    No it wasn't because of chapter 8. You're so far off base as to be kooky. If you want to say the New Covenant only lasted seven years, you're also way over there in kookyland. Watch out for those chemtrails.
  20. Marcus O'Reillius

    Who Is "the Restrainer" In 2 Thess. 2:6-7

    Do you believe in chemtrails too? Seriously, you have more cult like conspiracy theories than you do any good scholarly approach to the Bible. The end in Daniel 9:26 refers to the end of the seventy 'sevens'. Gabriel's coming to Daniel has nothing to do with the 2300 days and nights from a...