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  1. Marcus O'Reillius

    Who Is "the Restrainer" In 2 Thess. 2:6-7

    Jerusalem and Daniel's people still are. The "end" Gabriel is speaking about it the end of the seventy 'seven's. War goes on onto the end of the seventy 'sevens'. We still have war. We still have Jerusalem. We still have Daniel's people (depending on which group you place Daniel, two of...
  2. Marcus O'Reillius

    Who Is "the Restrainer" In 2 Thess. 2:6-7

    Sorry Charlie, but that is not what gabar means and the New Covenant was not made until Jesus was at the end of His First Advent. So your Preterist timing is quite off the mark. You have no prevailing by might, to begin Jesus' Ministry, and the only covenant is the New Covenant and that is at...
  3. Marcus O'Reillius

    Who Is "the Restrainer" In 2 Thess. 2:6-7

    I have that book in my library and I've read it. It has inspired me to write as well.
  4. Marcus O'Reillius

    Who Is "the Restrainer" In 2 Thess. 2:6-7

    Jesus said otherwise. Mt 24:15 "Therefore when you see the abomination of desolation which was spoken of through Daniel the prophet, standing in the holy place," (The Jews do not count Daniel as a Prophet, but God does.) Now Holy Place is a specific place in the Bible. Exo 26:33 Hang the...
  5. Marcus O'Reillius

    Who Is "the Restrainer" In 2 Thess. 2:6-7

    Another misapplication of Scripture by someone who is a horrible scholar. In the Olivet Discourse, Jesus lays out five specific and unique events which happen, staring with the midpoint abomination leading up to the gathering of the Elect, which Paul, some twenty years later, told the...
  6. Marcus O'Reillius

    Who Is "the Restrainer" In 2 Thess. 2:6-7

    That's not what Daniel said. 9:1 In the first year of Darius the son of Ahasuerus, of Median descent, who was made king over the kingdom of the Chaldeans— 2 in the first year of his reign, I, Daniel, observed in the books the number of the years which was revealed as the word of the Lord to...
  7. Marcus O'Reillius

    Who Is "the Restrainer" In 2 Thess. 2:6-7

    Nonsense it doesn't mean that at all! You are a horrible scholar! Dan 9:24 "Seventy weeks have been decreed for your people and your holy city..." decreed: chathak It means: to divide, determine (Niphal) to be determined, be decreed, be settled, be marked out It doesn't mean cut off or...
  8. Marcus O'Reillius

    Who Is "the Restrainer" In 2 Thess. 2:6-7

    So simple a caveman could do it. Of course, when challenged, you fail to rise to it and answer questions and counterpoints head on. You didn't tackle ANY of the related verses ATP pointed out! As far as proof: You have provided none! You count Jesus' Baptism as the "confirmation" of covenant...
  9. Marcus O'Reillius

    Who Is "the Restrainer" In 2 Thess. 2:6-7

    Again, this is direct contradiction of what Gabriel said by a person of little understanding. Gabriel said: even to the end there will be war; That end is in reference to the time for Daniel's people, (and Daniel is a member of more than one group: i.e., he is also a person who is in the Book...
  10. Marcus O'Reillius

    Who Is "the Restrainer" In 2 Thess. 2:6-7

    This blanket statement misrepresents Scripture. Where did Jesus make the New Covenant in the Old Testament? Provide chapter and verse or be called a charlatan. Secondly, Jesus "CUT" the New Covenant, He did not prevail by military might a limited-time covenant which ran out before the Gospels...
  11. Marcus O'Reillius

    Who Is "the Restrainer" In 2 Thess. 2:6-7

    Anytime someone says it is "clear", I am sure what I am about to hear (or read) is their conclusion. Likewise, while the text only says Jesus' karat comes after the sixty-two 'sevens'; it is your conclusion that it can only be during the one 'seven'. That is not so, and it is not the only...
  12. Marcus O'Reillius

    Who Is "the Restrainer" In 2 Thess. 2:6-7

    Yes. They are all related, and what God conveys in the inspired Word in just a few verses, takes reams of paper to study and that much more to expound upon. Shakespeare said: "Brevity is the soul of wit." How much more is God than us when the original Message is so succinct?
  13. Marcus O'Reillius

    Imminent.

    No, not at all. When the desolations come, we won't be here for that according to a Pre-Wrath point-of-view. I will say that both Noah and Lot were saved right before God's Wrath fell. This overall view of their examples leads me to look at the Day of the Lord when we will be rescued, and...
  14. Marcus O'Reillius

    Who Is "the Restrainer" In 2 Thess. 2:6-7

    Daniel 9:26 Then after the sixty- two weeks the Messiah will be cut off and have nothing, and the people of the prince who is to come will destroy the city and the sanctuary. And its end will come with a flood; even to the end there will be war; desolations are determined. 1. the Messiah will...
  15. Marcus O'Reillius

    Who Is "the Restrainer" In 2 Thess. 2:6-7

    Your conspiracy theories have nothing to do with the subject at hand. Your speculation is foolishness. The one 'seven' is not confirmed. That is a poor translation at best and you totally misconstrue the language by going from the Hebrew gabar (to prevail) to the Greek bebaioō which actually...
  16. Marcus O'Reillius

    Rapture Debate.

    The apostesia is the departure from the law. Apostasy. We take our word directly from the Greek, and it means the same thing. Eschatology is not a rule of Scripture. Theologians are split on it. Pastors rarely touch it. You do not have to get your eschatology right to be saved. It is not...
  17. Marcus O'Reillius

    Rapture Debate: How can there be two "first" resurrections?

    When we "receive" Christ, the word the Apostles used to convey that is paralambano. This Greek word is a little more complicated than just a one-for-one meaning for the verb: to receive. paralambano means to take over, to receive, to inherit. It is used in the Greek world to describe how...
  18. Marcus O'Reillius

    Who Is "the Restrainer" In 2 Thess. 2:6-7

    The wine and bread in the Passover Feast have two very important names which are symbolic as well as meaningful. The third cup of the Passover Feast is the Cup of Redemption. The "hidden manna", taken from the bread broken when the supper first commences, and hidden by the host in a "tosh" is...
  19. Marcus O'Reillius

    Who Is "the Restrainer" In 2 Thess. 2:6-7

    The seven and the sixty-two ‘sevens’ describe the first part of the timeline. They are connected by a conjunction in the Hebrew, so can be thought to run concurrently. The first seven ‘sevens’ represents the rebuilding timeframe for Jerusalem and the second set of ‘sevens’ represents the...
  20. Marcus O'Reillius

    Who Is "the Restrainer" In 2 Thess. 2:6-7

    You don't sound like you're even willing to debate anything. You sound frighteningly dogmatic in your take-it-or-leave-it approach. There are several nuances in counting the seventy 'sevens' which you seem to have overlooked... which makes you less a lay Bible scholar and more of a cultist in...