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so, talking about it (perhaps it's something pious to say) is a futile exercise?

I wonder about that. I also wonder why our prayers tell God what he should be doing.

a coffee wouldn't cut it with that belle Jezz. It'd be a double whiskey for starters.

Does talking about and repeating the expression 'rightly dividing the word of truth' mean that it is rightly divided?

you mean they hand out the celery along with the sweet corn and cantaloupes? :r.u.n:

talking about having wisdom and actually having wisdom are two different things.

do you mean point the finger?

How others label themselves is not my business; how I label myself or others is. How is it supposed heaven looking down at humanity, labels us?

How many former Catholics are here? Do we count, babylonians, hindu's, buddhists, animists, protestants, gay's, disabled, mentally challenged, millionaires, fashion dolls, greedy, trans..... Is it necessary to label our selves or others? What do we think labelling achieves?

Whew!! :IDK:

First they need to hear the good news.....then, they will make their choices....and it is their choices. The Holy Spirit is present when the good news is presented. You can't see him, smell him, feel him but he is there.....and choices are made.

You assume wrongly about what I think Hidden. Have another try!

I do not find this construct viable.

I don't think one needs to deduce that. Revelation zooms in on certain detail at different times.....it's not necessarily a continuous detailed timeline.

Sorry, I don't share your view Hidden. The context is the second coming of Jesus at the end of this age.

what about Jews included in Revelation 6:15-16?

Hey you :Thumbsup:

When it says 'all Israel', do you think it includes the rebellious, the recalcitrant, ie, child sacrificers, those who give the intentional finger to God which the Prophets railed against....those who deliberately formulated and spread the lies denying Jesus resurrection?

Learning to Have a Meek and Quiet Spirit Hey, you talkin' about me? :Broadly:

Yes, the history of the World will be shortened. This does not mean to say there won't be a time of trouble as never was just before Jesus returns. It will be tribulation alright....an intense time at the end 'packaged' if you like in the collective misery of 6000 years of sin.