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"It seems that Christians are concerned with fighting against the world and looking out for wars and rumors of wars, and distrusting all attempts toward peace - so, who are the peacemakers? " - aspen -- This ^^^^ statement is an overgeneralization of all Christians and you make this...

-- So you're changing your original premise for this thread.

Bait thread. Throwing out an unfair generalization of all Christians just to see who would bite. Why not answer the question yourself? You obviously have a predisposed position.

"And, I don't think you should defend homosexuality in the same way you would defend the Jews and Gypies." - Anastacia -- So the homosexuals should have received the treatment that they received in WWII and only the Jews and Gyspies shouldn't have? Please. None of them deserved that...

"Perversion is perversion. It should be stamped out of every nook and cranny of society. Sodomy should be prosecuted and mentally ill should be put in mental institutions." - religusnut -- I couldn't disagree more. While I may not want homosexual practices taught in school as an accepted...

"Why are you so angry, Religusnut? You have even resorted to name calling, you are so indignant...." - aspen -- LOL Pot, meet Kettle. Aspen, a simple perusal of a number of your past posts in this thread show that applies just as well to you. "I have never advocated taking on the laws of...

There was an article just yesterday about a couple in England that were Christians that had been foster parents for years but could no longer be for fear that they would use their values in raising children that could possibly be homosexual - religusnut -- I saw that article on the World Net...

"Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and [of] the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God." - John 3:5 kjv -- Hard to argue with specific, unambiguous scripture. Jesus himself felt the need to be baptized. Why would he do that if it wasn't...

"I think this is a good description of people who are so entrenched in their own far right ideas or far left ideas that they think middle ground is the extreme." - aspen -- I would agree. I was on Huffingtonpost the other day and one of the people there was talking about Obama and his...

-- You are absolutely correct in the God-inspired awe inspiring way that the Amish handled this situation. It is both inspiring and humbling when you ponder on it. Walking the walk when the walk is the most difficult. Amazing. The "Christians" in the "yet some Christians actually discount...

An excellent book on the subject is called 'Wrecked' written by Ryan Dobson and Toby Heim It covers how your life can be wrecked for several reason including obedience to God.

Tell Bill I said hi, Aspen

"The largest Protestant churches in the US are Assemblies of God (willow creek / saddleback model) and Presbyterian USA - both leave the door open for evolution. The Catholic Church has a billion members - they leave the door open for evolution." - aspen -- Wrong on both counts. Certain...

"I do not want the public school system teaching my kids about Jesus - I simply do not trust them." - aspen -- I agree. Neither do I want them teaching about homosexuality. For the same reason you gave. "You might be a conservative if you believe salvation requires a saving relationship...

"I thought I was clear when I stated that the Holy Spirit will convict their hearts - I hope you are not denying the power of the Holy Spirit??" - aspen -- What a silly thing to say. No one denies the power of the Holy Spirit but the Bible doesn't call on people to not witness and hope that...

"There is a difference between telling people to 'sin no more' and condemning their personal sin by name." - Aspen -- Just how are they going to know if what they are doing if no one points it out? Most people today do not think that their actions are sin. "Jesus, Paul and the disciples...

Just looking for a translation of what you are trying to say specifically. What exactly is your definition of a liberal? The issue I have had with Liberals is their stance on abortion, gay marriage, minimalization of Christianity and the expectations that Christians should be willing to...

"Was Jesus liberal minded for going against the establishment of the Pharisees? Was He a conservative by attacking the new order of the Pharisees and trying to bring everyone back to pre-Pharisee time period?" - Aspen ???

-- Did I read this correctly? ----> "If you want to be a 'Christian" , to truly be part of Christ, you must neither condemn or condone sin...." - Pia You do realize Jesus repeatedly told sinners, "Go and sin no more" don't you? How exactly are sinners going to realize they need to repent from...

-- Exactly correct.