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    The biblical necessity of a Pretribulation Rapture

    How were the Israelites protected from the wrath of God during the plagues? Were they raptured?No!!it was by the blood. In the end it shall be by the seal of God,ie,truth... Why were the Elect not raptured?Please don't say they are the tribulation saints,as it's no such thing,yes people will...
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    The biblical necessity of a Pretribulation Rapture

    So our gathering to Christ means what to you?
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    The biblical necessity of a Pretribulation Rapture

    II Thessalonians 2:1 "Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him," Subject is our gathering to Christ.... II Thessalonians 2:3 "Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come [it will not be], except there come...
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    The biblical necessity of a Pretribulation Rapture

    Not understanding your logic let's look II Thessalonians 2:1 "Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him," Subject is our gathering to Christ II Thessalonians 2:3 "Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not...
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    The biblical necessity of a Pretribulation Rapture

    So when are these saints gonna start reading the Word? Where is the rapture in this chapter? I get so many different answers from you guys,first it's just the Jew's now it's the trib saints,are they one in the same?
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    The biblical necessity of a Pretribulation Rapture

    So what part of Christ saying He returns AFTER the tribulation are you not understanding? Matthew 24:29 "Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not have her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be...
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    When was the last time you heard the word Rapture in your Church?

    Revelation 6:9 "And when he had opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of them that were slain for the word of God, and for the testimony which they held:" These souls were killed for their stand in the Word of God. Who could that be? The saints of God, for their souls are now...
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    When was the last time you heard the word Rapture in your Church?

    People say the difference in the rapture and the 2nd coming is that at the rapture Christ comes for the Church but at the 2nd coming He comes with the Church. Here's the problem with that thinking I Thessalonians 4:13 "But I would not have you to be ignorant, brethren, concerning them which...
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    Removal Theology not Replacement Theology

    Genesis 17:18 "And Abraham said unto God, "O that Ishmael might live before Thee!" Ishmael was the son of Hagar, the bond woman, by Abraham, and Abraham loved that boy. Genesis 17:19 "And God said, "Sarah thy wife shall bear thee a son indeed; and thou shalt call his name Isaac: and I will...
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    The prophetic visions in Daniel’s prophecy

    Daniel 9:23 "At the beginning of thy supplications the commandment came forth, and I am come to shew thee; for thou art greatly beloved: therefore understand the matter, and consider the vision." The angel Gabriel is telling Daniel now to think back to the vision of the seventy weeks, that we...
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    Removal Theology not Replacement Theology

    CoreIssue said: ↑ Yes it does. Is referring to the Jews still live at the second coming. 2/3 died during the AC persecutions of the Trib. When they see him they finally accept him as messiah. Are you serious,that's like saying they will be saved just because nowhere in scripture does it teach...
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    The Bride

    II Corinthians 11:2 "For I am jealous over you with godly jealousy: for I have espoused you to one husband, that I may present you as a chaste virgin to Christ."
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    The Bride

    So who is the Bride?
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    When was the last time you heard the word Rapture in your Church?

    Now let's do the,I go prepare a place for you. John 14:2 "In My Father's house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you." Have you ever heard Christians say before, "I have a mansion in the sky"? Friend, that is not what "mansions" is talking...
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    When was the last time you heard the word Rapture in your Church?

    The only way one gets to heaven before the return of Christ is if they die first. Now I'm sure(but not really)most on these forums have more than a 5th grade education,with that said ,let's break this down II Thessalonians 2:1 "Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus...
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    The Bride

    After 6 pages from the OP ,question has still not been answered.. Again, I asked the question to show that Israel has always been the Church. God promised to re-marry Israel,correct?And we know the Bride is the Church correct? My question is will God have 2 brides?My answer to my own question...
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    The Bride

    Hebrews 7:3 "Without father, without mother, without descent, having neither beginning of days, nor end of life; but made like unto the Son of God; abideth a priest continually." Who can this be but Christ?
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    The Bride

    So will God have two Brides?I think not,the Church is the Bride and God has promised to re-marry Israel
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    Removal Theology not Replacement Theology

    When did they exist? When will they exist?
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    Removal Theology not Replacement Theology

    Do most even know who Israel is? If you think the Church has not always been Israel can you please answer this question from the below scripture Genesis 35:11 "And God said unto him, "I am God Almighty: be fruitful and multiply; a nation and a company of nations shall be of thee, and kings...