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  1. dad

    PAUL WROTE DO NOT LISTEN TO THE PRETRIB RAPTURE TEACHERS

    Says you. Not Jesus. Job 21:30 That the wicked is reserved to the day of destruction? they shall be brought forth to the day of wrath. So when is that reserved time? In the end. Psalms 2:12 Kiss the Son, lest he be angry, and ye perish from the way, when his wrath is...
  2. dad

    PAUL WROTE DO NOT LISTEN TO THE PRETRIB RAPTURE TEACHERS

    Nope. Their dominion was taken away...we will rule. When? For the 1000 years. Simple.
  3. dad

    PAUL WROTE DO NOT LISTEN TO THE PRETRIB RAPTURE TEACHERS

    Bingo As Jesus says Luke 21:23 But woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck, in those days! for there shall be great distress in the land, and wrath upon this people. So if you are still here in those days you are here for wrath Nope. The lake is not here in...
  4. dad

    PAUL WROTE DO NOT LISTEN TO THE PRETRIB RAPTURE TEACHERS

    There is a certain time 'in those days' when it is nothing usual and not to be compared with other times at all. It is unique and it is THOSE days Jesus said were wrath. Wrath does not have to be designated a woe! Like a woman who is in labor it gets more intense as time passes.
  5. dad

    PAUL WROTE DO NOT LISTEN TO THE PRETRIB RAPTURE TEACHERS

    Says who? Luke 21:23 But woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck, in those days! for there shall be great distress in the land, and wrath upon this people. Jesus disagrees with you. No that time is the time of wrath. No way around it.
  6. dad

    PAUL WROTE DO NOT LISTEN TO THE PRETRIB RAPTURE TEACHERS

    Not 'tribulation' but that special period of wrath known as the Great Tribulation and even the first part of the day of the Lord before that as well. Right, THAT tribulation!
  7. dad

    PAUL WROTE DO NOT LISTEN TO THE PRETRIB RAPTURE TEACHERS

    Not sure what you thought this meant. Have you some point?
  8. dad

    PAUL WROTE DO NOT LISTEN TO THE PRETRIB RAPTURE TEACHERS

    I disagree. Being appointed to that wrath is not biblical
  9. dad

    PAUL WROTE DO NOT LISTEN TO THE PRETRIB RAPTURE TEACHERS

    If you agree the new earth is after the 1000 years then what is your point? Yes first He breaks them then He takes over and rules. You do not rule people that you just disintegrated into nothing on a burned out planet. This is news? No. Breaking them is needed to rule. Not like they will vote...
  10. dad

    PAUL WROTE DO NOT LISTEN TO THE PRETRIB RAPTURE TEACHERS

    False. He mentioned it would pass away, but no timing there was discussed at all. Yes I did read it. He will break the nations and rule. The context is that creation and the flood are mentioned. 2 Peter 3:4 And saying, Where is the promise of his coming? for since the...
  11. dad

    PAUL WROTE DO NOT LISTEN TO THE PRETRIB RAPTURE TEACHERS

    I didn't. I pointed out that the destruction of the planet was at the end of the 1000 years as the bible verse I quoted said. Why did you ignore it? As for rev 19 the verse says this Revelation 19:15 And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite the...
  12. dad

    PAUL WROTE DO NOT LISTEN TO THE PRETRIB RAPTURE TEACHERS

    He was not saying the heaven and earth would cease to exist when He returned to rule here. What nations did you think we ruled over? Why would we need to have an iron rule? That is not in the new earth and heaven! Those last days are before He returns to earth. The reservation for total fire is...
  13. dad

    PAUL WROTE DO NOT LISTEN TO THE PRETRIB RAPTURE TEACHERS

    False. He lands on the mount of Olives and it is not burned at all! He rules nations that are alive! The flood never destroyed Noah and His return to earth will only destroy the wicked. Not the planet. Revelation 19:15 And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite the...
  14. dad

    PAUL WROTE DO NOT LISTEN TO THE PRETRIB RAPTURE TEACHERS

    We are not ignorant of that any more than we are ignorant that He created the heavens and earth, and that He is eternal with no beginning or end etc etc. That has zero do do with specific time prophesies given for men who know a year and a month and a day as exactly that.
  15. dad

    PAUL WROTE DO NOT LISTEN TO THE PRETRIB RAPTURE TEACHERS

    Looks like you resorted to parroting cut and paste spam. I think all points have been answered.
  16. dad

    PAUL WROTE DO NOT LISTEN TO THE PRETRIB RAPTURE TEACHERS

    He comes for vengeance when He comes back all the way to earth and the mount of Olives. He brings with Him the dead in Christ He already Raptured several years before this event. The ones who come to believe and are on earth after the church rises in the air to meet Him of course will be people...
  17. dad

    PAUL WROTE DO NOT LISTEN TO THE PRETRIB RAPTURE TEACHERS

    Yes for the Almighty, time is not something that is a big concern for Himself. Time is for us! And prophesy gives times in a precise way. You do not get to say that because the eternal Almighty creator experiences certain things, that this means His word is a pack of symbolic fairy tales. God...
  18. dad

    PAUL WROTE DO NOT LISTEN TO THE PRETRIB RAPTURE TEACHERS

    You do no.ot get to declare that a given time in prophesy is some symbolic expression. People were expected to know the Daniel prophesy about when Messiah would come and know He would be here. The times such as days and years and months in prophesy are there for a reason. They are specific and...
  19. dad

    PAUL WROTE DO NOT LISTEN TO THE PRETRIB RAPTURE TEACHERS

    Are you suggesting the army of witnesses God sends in the end are there to waste time only and not bear fruit?
  20. dad

    PAUL WROTE DO NOT LISTEN TO THE PRETRIB RAPTURE TEACHERS

    ? What did you think the angels and witnesses were doing if no one could be saved?