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  1. dad

    PAUL WROTE DO NOT LISTEN TO THE PRETRIB RAPTURE TEACHERS

    So a thousand years is really...how long? A week is...how long? A month? You don't get to destroy times in prophesy that have been specified by God. Really.
  2. dad

    PAUL WROTE DO NOT LISTEN TO THE PRETRIB RAPTURE TEACHERS

    Can you find the winning lottery numbers in there for next week? Can you find the life of David in there? The flood? Your address? etc etc No one needs to find anything in some random passage you choose. One thing I cannot find in there though is a reason to wave away in disbelief the time...
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    PAUL WROTE DO NOT LISTEN TO THE PRETRIB RAPTURE TEACHERS

    Prove it Rev 20:6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years. Plain as the nose on your face In your...
  4. dad

    PAUL WROTE DO NOT LISTEN TO THE PRETRIB RAPTURE TEACHERS

    So a fairy tale to you. We get it Yes, lots of fire and judgment even when we return too rule here. Then at the end of the 1000 years, the world is burned and a new one made. The worlldwide burn obviously is not during or before we rule here. Sodom was burned not the world. So shall it be...
  5. dad

    PAUL WROTE DO NOT LISTEN TO THE PRETRIB RAPTURE TEACHERS

    The day of the Lord includes a lot actually, such as the millennium. Regardless of whether you consider that a fairy tale
  6. dad

    PAUL WROTE DO NOT LISTEN TO THE PRETRIB RAPTURE TEACHERS

    We first meet Him in the air, get our new bodies, and then He takes us to the Father's house. No one who knows Scripture would imagine that His Father's house is at cloud level on earth. Like Jesus went up into the clouds, and went then to His Father's house also!
  7. dad

    PAUL WROTE DO NOT LISTEN TO THE PRETRIB RAPTURE TEACHERS

    ? So does Gen 1:1 = Hab 1:11? Or do you just invent math as needed? Right, and that should tell you that when He comes in the air to get us and bring us where He is, in His Father's house, that it is not the same time as He returns with us. Not sure how you cross your wires here...
  8. dad

    PAUL WROTE DO NOT LISTEN TO THE PRETRIB RAPTURE TEACHERS

    Except you made that up. The yo yo theory is baseless and silly. It also places His bride in the wrath of God. Don't get hung up on numbers just because they don't fit your conflation attempts. It does not say when Jesus returns TO the earth, that this is a "second" coming. Ha. We also have...
  9. dad

    PAUL WROTE DO NOT LISTEN TO THE PRETRIB RAPTURE TEACHERS

    You did not answer the question. Does He return to earth with His saints or not? (lurkers, that is a trick question, of course He does) Jude - 14.. “Listen! The Lord is coming with countless thousands of his holy ones 15 to execute judgment on the people of the world Bingo. That is when He...
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    PAUL WROTE DO NOT LISTEN TO THE PRETRIB RAPTURE TEACHERS

    Except you are making stuff up and I showed it was. Let's start with something easy here. Do you realize we return with Him when He comes back to the earth?
  11. dad

    PAUL WROTE DO NOT LISTEN TO THE PRETRIB RAPTURE TEACHERS

    It is as simple as realizing that the wrath is not something we go through. We know there are those last several years. We know the days, and years and months that they will last. We know the saints return with Jesus after that period. So if we are not here in that period, and return with Him...
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    PAUL WROTE DO NOT LISTEN TO THE PRETRIB RAPTURE TEACHERS

    Try to get a grip. People that may not share your opinions are not going to be convinced by you imagining that they must be deceived. The case you have offered to support your position so far is pathetically weak. Lots of things happen in the last day. That period starts with the Rapture and...
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    PAUL WROTE DO NOT LISTEN TO THE PRETRIB RAPTURE TEACHERS

    No. God promised to come for us. You conflate the church, which is Raptured, with the new believers that will exist after the Rapture. Do not claim that those who have it strait are deceived.
  14. dad

    PAUL WROTE DO NOT LISTEN TO THE PRETRIB RAPTURE TEACHERS

    1 Thess 4:13-18 Brothers, we do not want you to be uninformed about those who sleep in death, so that you will not grieve like the rest, who are without hope. For since we believe that Jesus died and rose again, we also believe that God will bring with Jesus those who have fallen asleep in Him...
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    PAUL WROTE DO NOT LISTEN TO THE PRETRIB RAPTURE TEACHERS

    The time when the dead in Christ rise first then we which remain follow is the Rapture. The return of Jesus to the earth is with us. The Rapture is for us. Don't conflate the return when He brings us with Him with the Rapture when He calls up up to be with Him where He is. That is the Rapture.
  16. dad

    PAUL WROTE DO NOT LISTEN TO THE PRETRIB RAPTURE TEACHERS

    If the Rapture kicks off the day of the Lord, that matters how? By the way if Elijah were one of the two endtime witnesses, that would be once...the other time you claim he also comes is..?
  17. dad

    With artificial intelligence, we are summoning the demon — Elon Musk

    So the question arises, which group of mad scientists are the good guys? How would we know Elon would act differently than other companies with AI? Seems to me there is one way to know. Who is saved? Who talks about and loves Jesus? No AI company comes to mind there?
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    With artificial intelligence, we are summoning the demon — Elon Musk

    Looking it up, I see he did start an AI company. "Elon Musk has created a new company dedicated to artificial intelligence — and it’s called X.AI" https://www.theverge.com/2023/4/14/23684005/elon-musk-new-ai-company-x So people who live in glass houses should not throw stones. If other AI...
  19. dad

    With artificial intelligence, we are summoning the demon — Elon Musk

    Did not Musk recently get back into AI in a startup? If so, I guess he likes summoning demons (by his own description)