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You thought there were only one set of trumpets?

Jesus said that if we could receive it Elijah had come (John the Baptist) no? So do you think the day of the Lord started then? But let's say you are right, and that the witnesses come 'before' the day of the Lord. So if the Rapture kicks off or starts the day of the Lord, that is a perfect fit!.

We wait for you to do so I try not to get personal, but to look at the content and topic.

No. It is called getting weary of a poster drum rolling a big case for days and failing to produce anything. That was what the post was about. Then the poster finally did produce a few off center verses that I went through. Try dealing with the issues and topic. The poster will do no better than...

Either He is king there and rules or not. The answer is clear. Not. Period.

Asking for support for wild claims is anything but 'vomiting'. Perhaps try to have some manners.

Mountains are a place. Not a town. Great, so what is the connection to that having to be the Petra area exclusively? The verse before spells out who that is for. Isaiah 33:15 He that walketh righteously, and speaketh uprightly; he that despiseth the gain of oppressions, that...

Ha. After two days of build up we see this nonsense.

So far a big build up for days without support. Maybe try more fire than smoke. I think Petra area may be one of the areas. I just see no reason to make it exclusive.

Then you are wrong. It is obvious that He did not restore them to the land and killed all their enemies, and etc etc etc etc etc.

Yet you did not post scripture. I guess you mean what you think scripture says. Except when we read the passages you post there is no mention of Petra, Funny, that. So far it seems to be all in your head.

So you think that unbelieving Jews will up and leave soon as they see the abomination of desolation? Also, if the rock city were 'prepared of God' would it not have some accommodation for masses? Except I have not seen Him say all those leaving Israel would go to one little town. Any place...

wilderness from the Greek means this érēmos solitary, lonely, desolate, uninhabited used of places a desert, wilderness deserted places, lonely regions an uncultivated region fit for pasturage used of persons deserted by others deprived of the aid and protection of others, especially of...

I saw no bible verses that said all Jews will hole up in Petra. Nor that all the ones on earth saved that are Jews will be in some rock city either. I know none of that actually (except that there is a Petra in Jordan). Prove it. I do not recall Jesus 'ascending' to the mount of Olives. I had...

Of course He returns to take over the world. You mentioned it all centered on Petra. Don't think so. Many may flee there. Not all. The direction Jesus is seen coming from is from Edom in that prophesy. That does not mean He does not proceed to Jerusalem etc as well. Nor does it mean all...

Petra is something I have not seen in the bible as the destination for all Jews and Christians as you allude to. Nor is it mentioned as the destination where all armies of the earth head to as you also infer. Not sure why you 'debate' here. I guess it is to preach pet/cult doctrines. OK, so we...

No idea what you are talking about. He destroys them when He returns to earth.

When God returns them He will destroy their enemies and protect them. So we can safely rule out 1948. If you mean when He saved them from Egypt, yes. If you mean when God brings them back and is their King etc...that has not happened yet. That depends which temple you are talking about...

I know all that. This does not mean all things must have 1948 inserted though. We all know that. The issue is when. Will it be after they are saved and He protects and restores them, or was it 1948? Who cares about a temple that has animal sacrifices built before they get saved and that has...

Only the ones left alive in the very end who believe. The vast majority of the Jewish people will be killed before that according to the bible. In the end, the survivors will finally say 'uncle' and believe.