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  1. keithr

    Proof that Jesus is God

    Actually it's not! See this video:
  2. keithr

    Proof that Jesus is God

    Jesus was not immortal, therefore did not have eternal life, before his resurrection, otherwise he could not have died. This is why he was in such distress and sweat drops of blood in the garden of Gethsemane - because if he had sinned at all during his human life then his death would not pay...
  3. keithr

    Proof that Jesus is God

    What's your point? Don't you believe or understand what Paul is saying in Hebrews 7? I guess that proves you don't understand it!
  4. keithr

    Proof that Jesus is God

    You have misunderstood. NayborBear is implying that Mary became pregnant when God planted an embryo with perfect DNA into her womb. God did not change Mary's DNA so that she became physically perfect, but even if He had she would still not have lived forever because she, like everyone since...
  5. keithr

    Proof that Jesus is God

    He did! No he didn't! You cannot raise yourself from death, by definition of what death is! Act 2:32) This Jesus hath God raised up, whereof we all are witnesses. Again wrong. How can you receive authority unless someone of higher authority gives it to you? Jesus said after his...
  6. keithr

    Proof that Jesus is God

    Hebrews 2:9 (WEB): But we see him who has been made a little lower than the angels, Jesus, because of the suffering of death crowned with glory and honor, that by the grace of God he should taste of death for everyone. Jesus was "made a little lower than the angels", i.e. he was made...
  7. keithr

    Proof that Jesus is God

    Don't be silly! God cannot beget himself and give birth to Himself! This is the type of confused nonsense that Trinitarins have to come up with in order to try and make sense of the nonsensical Trinity doctrine! Believe the straightforward Scriptures - God begat a son, who was present with...
  8. keithr

    Proof that Jesus is God

    Precisely! That's the point I was making. The miracles were performed by God, not by men, because men don't have the knowledge or ability to perform those miracles. So the point I was making was that Devin Wintch was incorrect when he said "by definition he performed miracles of nature which...
  9. keithr

    Proof that Jesus is God

    So that presumably, according to your reasoning, makes the Apostles Gods too, for they also healed people, and brought people back from death. John 14:12 (WEB): Most certainly I tell you, he who believes in me, the works that I do, he will do also; and he will do greater works than these...
  10. keithr

    Proof that Jesus is God

    We've been here already! As I mentioned previously, you are getting confused between Lord and LORD. LORD is a representation (hiding!) of God's name, so quoting a better translation (WEB) it becomes: Deuteronomy 4:35) It was shown to you so that you might know that Yahweh is God. There is no...
  11. keithr

    Proof that Jesus is God

    I can't find anywhere in the Bible that says "the Lord He is God". Just saying it doesn't make it the truth, confirm it by quoting from the Bible. "You believe that God is one. You do well. The demons also believe, and shudder" (James 2:19).
  12. keithr

    Proof that Jesus is God

    Background information on the Trinity (continued) Note that the writings of the apostle Paul contain no support for the Trinity, and he claimed to have received the gospel direct from Jesus: “I am astonished that you are so quickly deserting the one who called you by the grace of Christ and are...
  13. keithr

    Proof that Jesus is God

    (I posted this in the discussion "The Seed of your Righteousness", but it seems appropriate to include it in this discussion also.) Background information on the Trinity The doctrine of the Trinity is a false doctrine that neither Jesus nor God taught. It is an error that did not begin to be...
  14. keithr

    Proof that Jesus is God

    That's an interesting point that I've never come across before. The Cambridge Bible for Schools and Colleges commentary on John 1:18 says: the only begotten Son] The question of reading here is very interesting. Most MSS. and versions have ‘the only-begotten Son’ or ‘only-begotten Son.’ But...
  15. keithr

    Proof that Jesus is God

    Regarding "I and the Father are one", I suggest you carefully read Jesus' words in John 17. Some verses from John 17: 1) Jesus said these things, and lifting up his eyes to heaven, he said, “Father, the time has come. Glorify your Son, that your Son may also glorify you; 2) even as you gave...
  16. keithr

    Proof that Jesus is God

    No, they tell of the relationship between God and Jesus - Jesus was God's only begotten son. The verses I quoted from John 20:17, Revelation 2:7, 3:2,12,21 were all spoken by Jesus after his resurrection, when he was no longer human, and in them he still claimed that God was his father and his...
  17. keithr

    Proof that Jesus is God

    Not entirely. I was also quoting verses that John wrote that say Jesus was God's only son, to show that John did not believe that Jesus was God, and therefore supporting that John 1:1 should be translated differently, perhaps like the Revised English Bible translates it: "In the beginning the...
  18. keithr

    Proof that Jesus is God

    Well that totally convinces me (not)! :)
  19. keithr

    Proof that Jesus is God

    That is what the Scriptures says. Considering that no one has seen God (Yahweh) at any time, I would interpret that passage as Yahweh was speaking through the angel. The angel may have been Jesus, or it may have been another spirit being - we have no way of knowing for sure.
  20. keithr

    Proof that Jesus is God

    Jesus was a god with us, but he was not almighty God Yahweh with us. Immanuel means "god with us" or "with us is god", where 'el' is a Hebrew word meaning strength or mighty, which is a generic word used to refer to any god (including Yahweh).