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  1. keithr

    The Seed of your Righteousness

    Yes God's punishment for sin is death, but the point I was trying to make is that God's perfect justice is an equal punishment is required, so if someone removes your tooth the just punishment would be to remove his tooth too. Therefore the perfectly just thing required to redeem Adam was an...
  2. keithr

    The Seed of your Righteousness

    Background information on the Trinity (continued) Note that the writings of the apostle Paul contain no support for the Trinity, and he claimed to have received the gospel direct from Jesus: “I am astonished that you are so quickly deserting the one who called you by the grace of Christ and are...
  3. keithr

    The Seed of your Righteousness

    Background information on the Trinity The doctrine of the Trinity is a false doctrine that neither Jesus nor God taught. It is an error that did not begin to be elaborated and formulated until the beginning of the fourth century AD. The following is a quote from the conclusion of The Church...
  4. keithr

    The Seed of your Righteousness

    No, I didn't realise that. When it says "there is to us only one God, the Father" I understand that to mean that the Father alone is God. It's not a difficult to understand verse. Orignally only God existed, so everything in existence exists because of God. God designed the whole universe...
  5. keithr

    The Seed of your Righteousness

    Is English your first language? You seem to not understand it very well. You had said to me, "You ... state that Jesus Created the World, as only GOD could do this", and therefore implied that Jesus must be God if Jesus created the world. So I asked where does the Bible say that only God...
  6. keithr

    The Seed of your Righteousness

    We seem to be going round in circles here! Such humilty and modesty! Paul said, "But even if we or an angel from Heaven preach a gospel to you beside what we preached to you, let him be accursed" (Gal 1:8). So please tell me which of Paul's verses that I have quoted I have not understood, and...
  7. keithr

    The Seed of your Righteousness

    That would just be a sham though, and not satisfy God's perfect justice ("life for life, eye for eye, tooth for tooth, hand for hand, foot for foot", Deu 19:21). God is immortal (Paul said of God, "who alone has immortality" 1 Tim 6:16), so God could not die (who said God can do anything? He...
  8. keithr

    The Seed of your Righteousness

    Just out of interest, I've gone back and tried counting how many verses of the Bible user 'Behold' and I have referenced and quoted up to the point of your reply. I've tried to be accurate, but please check for yourself too. I think 'Behold' had referenced about 10 Bible verses (although most...
  9. keithr

    The Seed of your Righteousness

    Where does it say in the Bible that only God could create the world? I believe it was God's design and instructions, but he asked Jesus to do the creating. Col 1:16 (WEB) tells us that "For by him [Jesus] all things were created ... all things have been created through him, and for him", so...
  10. keithr

    The Seed of your Righteousness

    What you said was, "or worse, as you do, if you never read it, but only read bible commentaries". So you said that I never read the Bible. I replied that I have read the whole Bible. I can also confirm that I do continue reading the Bible (all those Bible verses that I have quoted in this...
  11. keithr

    The Seed of your Righteousness

    Yes, effectively. Jesus was mortal before his resurrection. When on the earth in human form, he was exactly like us physically. If he could be transformed into a mortal man then he must have been mortal beforehand (immortal means that's it's impossible for you to die). Php 2:7-11 says that...
  12. keithr

    The Seed of your Righteousness

    You're not reading what the Bible says. The touching is irrelevant. Its says, "When the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was a delight to the eyes, and that the tree was to be desired to make one wise, she took some of its fruit, and ate" (Gen 3:6). It doesn't say that...
  13. keithr

    The Seed of your Righteousness

    I have not "tossed aside" any Bible references. Just because I may not have commented on every single Bible reference doesn't mean I have ignored them! Please give examples of what you mean, especially if you would like me to comment on those Bible references. As you have described...
  14. keithr

    The Seed of your Righteousness

    And here is more for you: Hebrews 1:1-14: God, who at many times and in many ways spoke in time past to the fathers by the prophets, Hath in these last days spoken to us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds; Who being the brightness of his...
  15. keithr

    The Seed of your Righteousness

    You seem to have difficulty reading and understanding what you and I have written, let alone the Bible! I said that I had read the whole Bible because you had accused me of not having read it. You had written "If you only read it, or worse, as you do, if you never read it, but only read bible...
  16. keithr

    The Seed of your Righteousness

    Why are you making such assumptions?! I have read the whole of the Bible. Again, you're not giving Bible references, so I'll give it, so we can look up the context to better understand: (Joh 8:56) Your father Abraham rejoiced to see my day: and he saw it, and was glad. (Joh 8:57) Then said...
  17. keithr

    The Seed of your Righteousness

    Definitely not! No, although a lot of their doctrine is correct. It's a lot closer to that than the apostate church that gave us the doctrine of the Trinity, hundreds of years later. This is a Bible Study discussion forum, so why not try and prove your claims from the Bible, as I have been...
  18. keithr

    The Seed of your Righteousness

    Who is that? o_O You should read the Bible more carefully! Jesus never claimed to be God. Read John 10:33-38 again: The Jews answered him, “We don’t stone you for a good work, but for blasphemy: because you, being a man, make yourself God.” Jesus answered them, “Isn’t it written in your law...
  19. keithr

    The Seed of your Righteousness

    My reasoning is based on the word of God, i.e. the Bible, and I consider myself a very logical thinking person (my brother used to call me Spock!) God will leave the judgement to Jesus, and everyone will be judged after they die. "For we will all stand before the judgment seat of Christ" (Rom...
  20. keithr

    The Seed of your Righteousness

    Jesus is not God, but that is a wholly different and long discussion! That famous verse, spoken by Jesus, says that Jesus was God's only begotten son, and that whoever believes in Jesus can have eternal life - it says nothing about going home to heaven. Christians will be resurrected as spirit...