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  1. keithr

    Hell

    I presume you haven't done that studying or else you would have enlightened us! The "covering cherub" is only referred to in this chapter of Ezekiel. God says: (Eze 28:13) You were in Eden, the garden of God. Who was in Eden? Answer: Adam, Eve, God, and Satan. It's not refering to Adam or...
  2. keithr

    Hell

    Judas went on to commit suicide. Everyone who commits suicide, by that act, is confessing that they wished that they had never been born. The advantages of his wasted life did not overbalance the sorrows and anguish which terminated in despair, suicide and the second death. There will not be...
  3. keithr

    Hell

    They will suffer the second death, from which there will be no resurrection to life again, i.e. they will perish, and be utterly destroyed. (Psa 9:5) You have rebuked the nations. You have destroyed the wicked. You have blotted out their name forever and ever. (Psa 37:38) As for...
  4. keithr

    Hell

    All the verses that use the word Gehenna are spoken by Jesus, except one verse (James 3:6). He always uses the word to represent destruction, e.g.: (Mat 5:29) If your right eye causes you to stumble, pluck it out and throw it away from you. For it is more profitable for you that one of your...
  5. keithr

    1 Peter 2:24 = Hebrews 13:8

    The price for the redemption of Adam's life is the penalty for sin applied to an equal substitute for Adam, i.e. it required the death of a perfect human being, not a spirit being hiding inside a human body (like demon possession?). As I mentioned, God cannot have done that because he does not...
  6. keithr

    Hell

    I'm not going round this loop again. Your questions have already been answered - read the previous replies. It seems that you are incapable of understanding it. No live person burns in hell (Gehenna) fire.
  7. keithr

    1 Peter 2:24 = Hebrews 13:8

    Yes it is Yahweh (Jehovah), who is saying that he existed before all of His creation, and he will always exist, and that he is the only almighty God and that there is no other almighty God but Him. Not quite! The Revelation verses are referring to Jesus, who was the first of all God's...
  8. keithr

    1 Peter 2:24 = Hebrews 13:8

    (Gen 3:19) By the sweat of your face will you eat bread until you return to the ground, for out of it you were taken. For you are dust, and to dust you shall return.”
  9. keithr

    Hell

    Well above (e.g. reply #141) you quoted many translations, starting with: Acts 2:27 (NKJV) 27 For You will not leave my soul in Hades, Nor will You allow Your Holy One to see corruption. So as you can see it plainly says Hades. That is the Greek word untranslated and left as it is. Check it...
  10. keithr

    1 Peter 2:24 = Hebrews 13:8

    Yes, he was not always human, and is no longer human. But he became human, 100% human just like us: (Rom 8:3) For what the law couldn’t do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God did, sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh and for sin, he condemned sin in the flesh; (Php 2:7)...
  11. keithr

    Hell

    What am I making up? Most of the translations you quoted leave the word hades untranslated. You seem to favour the NKJV which says (full verse): "he, foreseeing this, spoke concerning the resurrection of the Christ, that His soul was not left in Hades, nor did His flesh see corruption." He...
  12. keithr

    1 Peter 2:24 = Hebrews 13:8

    On the contrary, only a human life can redeem mankind, which is why Jesus had to become a human in order to redeem us. Yes, Jesus existed before the earth was created: (John 1:1) In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God But in order to redeem us God changed Jesus' nature from...
  13. keithr

    Hell

    My goodness, you really are stupid! :rolleyes: Those 32 translations all agree that Jesus was in the same place (they're all translating the same Greek word "hades"!), they just call it by different names - Hades (original Greek untranslated), Sheol (original Hebrew from the Old Testament verse...
  14. keithr

    1 Peter 2:24 = Hebrews 13:8

    And as usual you have ignored my explanation of that. Nothing new.:(
  15. keithr

    1 Peter 2:24 = Hebrews 13:8

    Christians may not be condemned under the law, because God forgives us, but that does not mean that they do not still commit sins (and if we love God we should keep his commandments/laws). (Heb 10:14) For by one offering he has perfected forever those who are being sanctified. By one offering...
  16. keithr

    Hell

    I thought you were just kidding. Surely you're not really that ignorant or stupid? :eek: Surely you realise that hell (and grave in some of the translations) is just a translation of Hades? Why did you miss out the KJV (the translation which introduced the word hell, rather than grave), which...
  17. keithr

    1 Peter 2:24 = Hebrews 13:8

    That's a poor translation that gives the opposite meaning to what it should be! The WEB, for example, translates it as : (Php 2:6) who, existing in the form of God, didn’t consider equality with God a thing to be grasped, If Jesus wanted equality with God (Yahweh) then why was he doing God's...
  18. keithr

    1 Peter 2:24 = Hebrews 13:8

    This is basic Christian faith! The whole of the Bible is all about God redeeming mankind from sin and death, which could only be done by finding a substitute to pay the penalty for sin (death). No man could do it because they were all corrupted and had a sinful nature, inherited from Adam, and...
  19. keithr

    1 Peter 2:24 = Hebrews 13:8

    In that case Jesus is a liar (unless you are wrong!): Jesus said before his death, John 10: 33) The Jews answered him, “We don’t stone you for a good work, but for blasphemy: because you, being a man, make yourself God.” 34) Jesus answered them, “Isn’t it written in your law, ‘I said, you are...
  20. keithr

    1 Peter 2:24 = Hebrews 13:8

    There is nothing wrong with reading different translations of the Bible. It can sometimes help you discover or understand the correct meaning, even if you don't trust the accuracy of those translations. I have never quoted any of those translations or publications. But just quoting a...