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  1. keithr

    Hell

    You didn't address the question that VictoryinJesus asked you, which was: "Once the lust of the flesh, the lust the eyes, and the pride of life is no more what need is there for a prison?" From what you've written before I'd guess that your response would be that we're all immortal and will...
  2. keithr

    Hell

    I said it does not matter because it will be in an unconscious state. It will remain in that non-functioning state forever - effectively dead - unless God awakens it from that unconscious state and gives it a new body. That is what we are told in God's word to us, so that is what I believe...
  3. keithr

    Hell

    You have not understood that whatever part of us that is not physical, not made of the dust of the earth, wherever it goes does not matter, because it will be in an unconscious state - we will sleep, as Jesus, Paul, God, etc. liken it to. It only awakens when God gives it a new body, whether...
  4. keithr

    Hell

    If you can't recognise when God is using symbols and types, etc., then you'll end up misunderstanding the Scirptures. Oh, wait, you have misunderstood! :D
  5. keithr

    Hell

    Of course I don't believe that! I quoted from 1 Thessalonians 4 which implies that dead Christians remain dead until moments before the rapture. The rapture hasn't taken place yet, so they are still dead. Here's another passage from Paul confirming it (1Cor 15:51-53): 51) Behold, I tell you...
  6. keithr

    Hell

    If they are instantly with Jesus then why does Paul say that "the Lord himself will descend from heaven with a shout, ... The dead in Christ will rise first, then we who are alive, who are left, will be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air. So we will be with...
  7. keithr

    Hell

    And they are quite right to reject the trinity doctrine. Jesus refers to Yahweh (God) as his father and his God, e.g.: (Rev 3:12) He who overcomes, I will make him a pillar in the temple of my God, and he will go out from there no more. I will write on him the name of my God, and the name of...
  8. keithr

    Hell

    I didn't make it up. We are told by John, who wrote Revelation, that it was symbolic: "The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave unto him, to shew unto his servants things which must shortly come to pass; and he sent and signified it by his angel unto his servant John" (Rev 1:1). He says...
  9. keithr

    Hell

    Just because the Jehovah's Witnesses believe in something that does not mean it's not true. They also believe in Jesus, that he was the son of God who gave his life in sacrifice for all mankind, and who was resurrected to life again by God. Do you not believe that because the Jehovah's...
  10. keithr

    Hell

    Indeed. But he wasn't expressing his opinion, just facts. So let's consider the Scriptures. The Hebrew word sheol occurs 65 times in the Old Testament. It is translated in the KJV as 'hell' 31 times, 'grave' 31 times and 'pit' 3 times. The KJV was translated over 400 years ago, and the old...
  11. keithr

    Hell

    Nope.
  12. keithr

    Hell

    You've claimed that before, but I suspect that is not true. Just a quick count of the number of times Jesus used the words hell and heaven gives hell = 16 times, heaven = 125 times. So I remain unconvinced of your claim.
  13. keithr

    Hell

    You are not providing any Bible verses to confirm your conjecture. You are assuming that everyone already has eternal life and are effectively immortal (immortal meaning that you cannot possibly die, an indestructible existence that is not dependent on food, drink or conditions of any kind)...
  14. keithr

    Hell

    This is what you have said previously in this thread (indented paragraphs): Hell is ... full of people who hate God, rejected Christ and do not want to be a part of God's family, before they died. ... So, God created the place for them to go, as He can't allow them to be in Heaven with the...
  15. keithr

    Who is : The Original Bible Corrector

    I have provided lots of Bible quotes and references, so I don't understand why you have "no idea" where I get it from. It is mainly from Revelation 20. I shouldn't need to repeat it, but I don't mind doing so: (a) Satan is bound at the beginning of the 1,000 years, so that he can no longer...
  16. keithr

    Hell

    So you believe that everyone is judged the moment they die rather than what the Bible says which is that everyone will be resurrected and then judged at the end of the 1,000 years of Christ's rule over mankind on the earth (Rev 20)? And don't you believe Jesus who said of Lazarus, who had been...
  17. keithr

    Who is : The Original Bible Corrector

    I think you are taking the verse out of context and coming to a wrong interpretation. It's part of a passage where God is condemning the religious leaders of Israel for not correctly teaching the people, and prophesying that he will restore the nation of Israel and judge between them, and...
  18. keithr

    Who is : The Original Bible Corrector

    What was incorrect was your idea that "the damned are only resurrected to be punished", that all non-Christians are restored to life only to then be executed. Whereas what the passage is saying is that everyone that is resurrected will live for about one thousand years (i.e. for the majority of...
  19. keithr

    Hell

    God's perfect justice is (Exodus 21:23-25): 23) But if any harm follows, then you must take life for life, 24) eye for eye, tooth for tooth, hand for hand, foot for foot, 25) burning for burning, wound for wound, and bruise for bruise. So do you really think God is stuck with eternal...
  20. keithr

    Who is : The Original Bible Corrector

    That is not correct. The passage says (Rev 20, WEB): 11) I saw a great white throne, and him who sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away. There was found no place for them. 12) I saw the dead, the great and the small, standing before the throne, and they opened books...